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COUNCIL WORKSHOP
JULY 25, 2006 6:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
A Council Workshop was held in the Council Chambers and called to order by Mayor Ken Olson at
6:30 p.m. on July 25, 2006.
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT:
._x_ Dick Fritzler
x Kate Hart
_x_ Gay Easton
Jennifer Johnson
_x_ Doug Poehls
x Mark Mace
_x_ Chuck Dickerson
_x_ Norm Stamper
OTHERS PRESENT:
Perry Asher
Mary Embleton
Sam Painter
Rick Musson
Ten'ill Bracken
Paul Thomae
Smart Kirkpatrick
Public Input (three-minute limit):
Citizens may address the Council regarding any item of City business not on the agenda. The duration for an individual
speaking under Public Input is limited to three minutes. While all comments are welcome, the Council will not take action
on any item not on the agenda.
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Police Department:
· Laurel Police Reserve appointment: Tenqll Bracken
Chief Musson introduced Terffil Bracken, who has served as a police reserve in the past and wants to
serve again. Rick stated that Ten-ill will be an asset for weapons and defensive tactics. The
appointment will be on the council agenda on August 1~t.
Planning Board issues:
A memo of explanation from Cai Cumin for the following items was distributed as he was unable to
attend the council workshop.
Resolution approving Annexation and Zone Change to Residential Limited Multi-Family
Zoning for McLelland Property at 708 East Maryland Lane, Tract B-1 of Certificate of Survey
2385 Amended Tract B
A draf~ resolution approving the annexation of this property and a draft ordinance for the zone change
were distributed to the council. City code allows property owners to request the desired zoning upon
annexation, and the applicants have requested Residential Limited Multi-Family zoning. The
resolution and ordinance will be on the council agenda on August 8th.
· Ordinance (First reading) for proposed changes in LMC:
Council Workshop Miautes of July 25, 2006
o Table 17.16.020 to reduce front yard setbacks for open porches
This change would reduce the from-yard setback in residential neighborhoods from twenty (20) feet
to five (5) feet and is meant to encourage communication in neighborhoods.
o Section 17.40.090.J.2 to reduce the mount of off-street parking required in the
Community Commercial Zoning District
This change makes Laurel's Community Commercial Zoning more competitive for businesses by
reducing the amount of off-street parking required from one space per 100 square feet to one space
per 200 square feet.
o Section 17.56.030.1 to allow non-conforming dwelling units to be rebuilt when
destroyed
Owners of older homes that do not conform to the minimum lot size and other similar zoning
requirements of the LMC cannot refinance their homes when the mortgage companies learn the home
is non-conforming to zoning. The city has been forced to deal with such issues on a case-by-case
basis, and this change addresses the issue.
o Section 12.08.070(A) to allow maximum driveway widths of twenty-four feet.
The change ~om twenty to twenty-four feet reflects the larger homes and garages that are being built
in Laurel.
The first reading oftbe ordinance will be on the council agenda on August 1~t.
Clerk/Treasurer:
· Resolution- 2005-2006 Budget amendment
The budget amendments are housekeeping issues for year-end closing to amend the appropriations,
revenues, and some of the reserves for fiscal year 2006. The list was attached to the resolution and
most had unanticipated revenue to offset the additional appropriation. Mary explained the
amendments for Comp Insurance, Health Insurance, Permissive Medical, SID Revolving, SID #110,
Fire Relief; Court Technology Surcharge, Law Enforcement Academy Surcharge, Crime Victims, and
Airport Authority. The budget amendments are on the fund level. The resolution for budget
amendments will be on the council agenda on August 1st.
· Resolution - 2005-2006 Budget transfers
Budget transfers are not required by law but are recommended. Budget transfers change the look of
the budget versus actual expenditures. Mary distributed a partial list of the work that needs to be done
to complete the transfers within a fund at the line item level With the council's permission, the
eppmpriations column will be changed to match what was spent. Mary explained the process of
budget transfers. Mary suggested that the council should decide whether budget transfers should
continue to be done. The resolution for budget transfers will be on the council agenda on August 1~.
Adminia~ative Assistant:
Council Workshop Minutes of July 25, 2006
· Resolution - Transfer of Parcel from Laurel Public Schools to City of Laurel
Tho resolution is to provide a full fight-of-way width to Alder Avenue. The southern half of Alder
Avenue that abuts the school district property is only 40 feet wide, and this gives the city another 40
feet to make it the full 80-foot fight of way width.
The city will be responsible for maintenance of Alder Avenue, but there is not a definite plan at this
time. Mayor Olson explained that the 2003 legislature passed a statute that requires that property
annexed after 2003 would be annexed with the whole street, not just to the center line. This property
was annexed into the city after 2003, so this is a mandate that was passed down from the State.
The resolution will ho on the August 1't council agenda~
· Park hours ordinance - "darkness" vs. specific time
Rick spoke regarding the prior suggestion to set park hours at one-half hour after sunset and one-half
hour before sunrise. Rick stated that the police department favors setting the park closing time at
10:00 p.m., which is a reasonable time. Stipulations allowing special events could be included in the
ordinance.
There was discussion regarding: difficulty to patrol in parks atter dark; problems with vandalism;
activities in parks can be annoying to surrounding neighbors, who feel they cannot complain during
park hours; enforcement of disturbance of peace and/or disorderly conduct by the police department;
problems with skateboarding in shelters; curfew is 11:00 p.m. on school nights and 1:00 a.m. on non-
school nights; suggestion to treat parks individually and close Kiwanis Park at a specific time;
suggestion to discuss at tho next council workshop; suggestion to form a task force to review tho park
hours.
Mayor Olson will announce the members of tho task force at the council meeting on August 1~t.
· South Laurel Business District Committee
The South Laurel Business District Committee is comprised of tho business owners in the area formed
by the triangle of the railroad tracks, the interstate, and South First Avenue on the east side. Wal-
Mart signed a waiver of protest for an SID for improving roads in that area. The initial reason for the
committee was to explore the interest in forming an SID. The committee, which has met three times,
has the following concerns: road improvements; storm drain system; and installation of stubs for
undeveloped properties so the new street does not have to be dug up in the future. The next meeting
is scheduled for August 16th at 8:00 a.m.
· Presentation on August 8m - Dr. Doug Moore, City-County Health Department
Dr. Moore will presem information on tho flu pandemic issue at the council workshop on August 8t~.
· Thomae Lumber- loading/unloading zone
Stuart Kirkpatrick, the attorney for Thomae Lumber, addressed the council. He has worked with Paul
and Sandy Thomae on this issue since 1991 and gave a bfief overview. In the late 1980's and early
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1990'S, the State started having problems with allowing Thomae Lumber to unload materials offMain
Street. In 1993, the city council approved an ordinance to permit Thomae Lumber to load and unload
along Washington and Wyoming Avenues. They did that for several years until 2000 when the city
repealed the ordinance that allowed them to load and unload on Washington and Wyoming Avenues.
That made it extremely difficult for Thomae to continue operations of loading and unloading large
amounts of inventory. The city council had two legitimate concerns about safety and the degradation
of the road resulting from forklifts that went across the mad. The issue of solving the problem was
directed to the public works dopathnent. The public works folks approved a potential agreement or
the negotiations of an agreemunt to work out some arrangements so Paul and Sandy could load and
unload along Washington and Wyoming Avenues. Thoman Lumber did the things requested by the
city. For example, they used warning flashers on the forklitis and set out cones for the safety
concerns. Paul made some commitments that he would fix the street if he ruined it. Paul was
required to get insurance naming the city as an additional insured under his automobile and general
liability policies. He was asked to put in a curb cut and put up some gates at the time, and that was
done. There were discussions back and forth with the Laurel City Attomey and then everything just
kind of stopped. Paul continued to do business and there did not seem to be any issues.
Recently, Thomae Lumber received the letter from the city that stated the city would begin citing
them in August. Stuart prepared a drai~ agreement that had previously been proposed in 2001 to
attempt to resolve the issue to allow Paul to continue to mn his operation at his current location on
Main Street. Stuart has talked with Steve, Perry, and Sam and e-mailed a drat~ agreement to Sam.
The two issues are public safety issues to make sure that someone does not get hurt because of the
loading and unloading. The proposed system may be important to alleviate any safety problems.
Stuart distributed some copies of the proposal, which had not yet been reviewed by the city's attorney.
Stuart proposed several ways to address the safety issues. Hours of use should be during regular
business hours. The right of way should only be used for loading and unloading purposes. Wyoming
and Washington Avenues should not be blocked completely, there should be ingress and egress, and
there should be significant safety, fire, and police call concerns. When utilizing the forkliits on the
right of way, they should be equipped with flashing warning lights. Warning devices like cones, a
light, or whatever the law requires to provide sufficient safety for people should be used. Thomae
Lumber should continue to add the city on its general automobile liability insurance polices.
The second issue is road degr~rlation. There is an issue about whether the forklitts going across the
blacktop would cause some unusual wear and tear on the road. When the road on Wyoming was
being rebuilt this summer, Paul Thomae told JTL that he would be willing to put in an 80-foot
concrete pad and pay the difference in the cost of putting that pad in versus blacktop. JTL
respectfully declined him to do that, which could have resolved any kind of wear and tear issues that
existed out there. Paul is willing to do things right to protect the roadway. They have agreed that if
they cause a problem, they will repair the problem. The question now is how to determine when there
is a problem and when there is a repair. Stuart's suggested that, if the public works director thinks the
forklifts are causing problems, he should contact Paul about it. Stuart created a format to deal with
the issue if Paul does not agree that there is a problem. The city and Paul could agree on an engineer
to give an expert opinion about what is going to be done. If they cannot agree on an engineer, then
the city picks an engineer, Paul picks an engineer, and they pick a third engineer, who has a final say
on what needs to be done to repair the road and Paul's respons~ility in that. Stuart stated that it
seems like an easy, simple, cost-effective method of resolving the problem without getting bogged
down in arguments and issues, and Paul has agreed to it.
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Stuart stated that the only other problematic issue is that Wyoming Avenue is new and the blacktop
has been done according to significant specifications. JTL, who did the blacktop work on Wyoming
Avenue, also did the blacktop work at Paul's business in Billings, and he is comfortable with the way
JTL installed the blacktop. Paul does not believe that the asphalt blacktop job done on Washington
Avenue equals the quality oftha work done on Wyoming Avenue. There was no significant base put
in and it may not have been done to the specificatiom for which he thinks he ought to be responsible.
In the draft agreement, Stuart wrote that as long as the roadway was properly constructed in
accordance with specifications agreed upon, Paul is willing to make the repairs. However, if the road
is not done according to appropriate specifications, he should not have to contribute additionally for
what may not be his problem. They have tried to resolve the two big issues. One issue is safety and
the other is wear and tear on the road. Paul has been a good corporate citizen in this city for a long
time and wants to continue to mn his business and be profitable.
Stuart suggested that the attorneys should discuss the ideas of a grant of an easement, a grant of a
fight of way, a license, a loading zone, etc. He stated the importance of have a long-term resolution to
this issue.
Dick stated that concrete is oRen used for bus stops.
Smart stated that Paul has not had any problems in three years with forklifts and 18-wheelers on the
asphalt at his business in Billings. They are disappointed that the concrete pad was not installed on
Wyoming Avenue, as Thomae was willing to do so.
Chuck asked if the city was approached by JTL regarding Thomae Lumber's request to put in a
concrete pad.
Mayor Olson said that, to his knowledge, the city was not approached.
Paul Thomae, 3330 South Park City Road, told the council that Morrison-Maierle's engineer
approached him one day about the concern with Thomae Lumber unloading trucks. The engineer said
that they would like to put in a 30 or 40-foot pad of conerete. Paul suggested doing 80 feet so the
trucks could drive ali the way around and not be on the blacktop. Paul said to get a price on that and
let him know. The engineer returned in two days and said they were just going to do blacktop.
Thomae paid $2,500 more for the boulevard, as he did not want dirt and weeds in the boulevard, and
he would have paid for the difference between blacktop and concrete in the street. JTL did the work
at his business in Billings. Thomae unloaded semis of sheetrock on the blacktop before they built a
new building, and 15 to 18 semis go into the Billings yard every day. That blacktop is as good as the
day it was done. Paul is not afl.aid oftbe street and thinks he can work on this street and will not hurt
it. But if they do, he will take care of it. Washington Avenue has not been done yet. Whenever that
street is done, he will stand behind that, too, as long as they do the same work as was done on
Wyoming. He is not afl'aid of that blacktop. In the letter he received, somebody was watching them
unload a truck load of sheetrock. That was a day and a half after the blacktop was poured. Blacktop
is very soft when it is first poured and there was plenty of movement. If you look at it today, there are
not any grooves or dips in the blacktop. Paul said it is not like what the letter indicated they were
doing and the blacktop is as good as when it was first poured. Paul asked the council to resolve this
issue so he can continue with business and is not back here in another two to three years.
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Chuck asked Paul if he would be willing to put in a concrete pad on Washington Avenue.
Paul said he would pay the difference between what the cost oftbe blacktop and the concrete.
Gay stated that this would have to be an ordinance to address everywhere in the city bemuse Cenex
does the same thing on Ohio Avenue.
Paul stated that the city's garbage trucks are tearing up the streets by Mabel's and the city is putting a
patch there. If the city does not excavate it down better, it is only a temporary fix.
Stuart stated that Paul needs some consistency to get this through, which may be a little different than
the other issues because Thomae actually had an ordinance specifically authorizing the loading and
unloading on both sides of the avenue. With that ordinance gone, it completely takes away Paul's
ability to operate the way he needs to operate. So it is a little different in that they had already
received some of those kinds of approvals from the city.
Mayor Oison said that the council will be considering the option for the variance change in that area.
As we go forward, the council will address an ordinance that is citywide for loading and unloading.
Currently, there is not loading and unloading ability around any of the other areas. It would be site
specific for a variance for that loading and unloading.
There was discussion regarding the tires on the forkliits.
After the letter was sent, the city informed Paul that this issue would be resolved and no fines would
be enforced during the time of negotiation.
Mayor Olson said that the council has to consider in their deliberations that this will be site specific.
There are other considerations that will be impacted by the council's decision. Hopefully, when this
is concluded, there will be a solution that will satisfy all the concerns out there.
Stuart stated that the dratt agreement was written to make it a right of way instead of passing an
ordinance to make it a real property interest. They are willing to work out any option to get a long-
t~lm resolution to this problem.
Thomae's hours of operation are Monday through Friday from 7:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. and on
Saturdays from 8:00 a.m. to noon.
Further discussion on this issue will be on the council workshop agenda on August 8th.
Executive Review:
· Discussion - Joint Laurel School District/City of Laurel issues
o Information regarding funding for the SRO position will be presented soon.
· Appointment - Designation of CTEP administrator
o Mayor Oison will appoint Perry Asher as the CTEP administrator at the council meeting
on August 1 ~.
· Interviews for the city planner position are scheduled for Wednesday, July 26t~.
· Discussion- Presentation by Dr. Susan Gflbertz
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o Gay Easton will contact Dr. Gilbertz to schedule a presentation on the findings of the study
of the Yellowstone River.
Review of draft council anenda for August L 2006
Announcements
Mark Mace asked for permission to be out of the state next week.
Doug Poehls stated that the YMCA is providing many opportunities for the youth in Laurel, in spite
of the recent events of the director's t~a'aination. The YMCA Boards in Laurel and Billings continue
to meet.
Mayor Olson mentioned the terrific program and events at the Lewis and Clark celebration at
Pompey's Pillar.
Attendance at the August 1st council meefin~
Mark Mace will not attend the meeting.
Doug Poehls might not attend the meetings on August 1~ and 8*.
Other items
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The council workshop adjourned at 7:58 p.n~
Respectfully submitted,
Cindy Allen
Council Secretary
NOTE: This meeting is open to the public. This meeting is for information and discussion of
the Council for the listed workshop agenda items.
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Dear Mayor, Council Members, and Administrative Assistant. I have had an issue arise and will
not be able to make the Council Workshop tonite far which I apologize.
1 have attempted to address the planning-related issues for your convenience below. I will also
address, per Council Public Hearing Protocol, each item at whatever reading is the public
hearing.
Cal Cumin
CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP
ITEM NO. 3: PLANNING BOARD ISSUES:
--Resolution approving Annexation and Zone Change to Residential Limited Multi-Family
Zoning for McLelland Property at 708 East Maryland Lane, Tract B-1 of Certificate of Survey
2385 Amended Tract B (see attached Resolution):
This has been through Planning Board review and comes forward with a recommendation
to approve from that Board. It is adjacent to the City limits just east of the church and northeast
of the new school site (which was acquired from the McLellands, I believe).
The site is adjacent to paved streets and City water and sewer, so issues of City services
availability are not issues in this annexation.
City code allows applicants for annexation to request the zoning desired upon annexation,
and McLellands have requested Residential Limited Multi-Family. This is a light multi-family
zone that allows up to four-plexes; one dwelling requires 6000 square feet and, if four are
planned, 10,000 square feet are required.
This requested zoning fits well into the area with good traffic circulation, access to
central water and sewer, and dense land use activities in the area (school and the Community-
Commercial land uses and multiplexes to the immediate north in Iron Horse Station Subdivision
and The Crossings (St. John's) complex.
--Ordinance (First reading) for proposed changes in LMC:
Table 17.16.020 to reduce the front yard setbacks for open porches:
This has been through Planning Board public hearing and comes to Council with a
recommendation to adopt.
It reduces the front-yard setback in residential neighborhoods (the zones are listed in the
accompanying Ordinance) from 20 feet to 5 feet. This is meant to encourage more "eyes on the
street" and communication between neighborhood families. The concept comes from the City's
Oversight Committee long-term analysis of community growth and change and the adopted
Growth Management Plan.
The only issue that came up was corner setback and setbacks on curves where the
line-of-sight needed by vehicular traffic could be impaired by building too close to the street.
After discussion with the Public Works Director, the following language was added, "--but under
no circumstances shall such construction interfere with the clear vision for vehicular traffic required on
corners or curves."
Section 17.40.090.J.2 to reduce the amount of off-street parking required in the Community
Commercial Zoning District:
This has also been through public hearing with the Planning Board and comes forward
with a recommendation to adopt.
This change makes Laurel's Community Commercial Zoning more competitive for its
businesses by reducing the amount of off-street parking required from one space per 200 square
feet to one space per 400 square feet. (The Council recently did away with all off-street parking
requirements for its Central Business District which is a good incentive for downtown
businesses.) This is a good business incentive also.
Section 17.56.030.1 to allow non-conforming dwelling units to be rebuilt when
destroyed:
Many homes in the older parts of Laurel are do not conform to the minimum lot size and
other similar zoning requirements of the LMC which was adopted long after the homes were
built. These owners of older homes cannot refinance their homes when the mortgage companies
learn the home is non-conforming to zoning. This has forced the City to deal with such issues on
a case-by-case basis. This ordinance change addresses this issue.
Section 12.08.070(A) to allow maximum drive approaches to be 24-feet wide rather than
20 feet:
This is supported by the Public Works Department and reflects the larger homes-larger
garages being built, demanded, and sold in the current Laurel market. This also comes from the
Planning Board, after public hearing, with a recommendation to the Council to adopt.