HomeMy WebLinkAboutPublic Works Committee Minutes 09.08.2003DRAFT
MINUTES
PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE
SEPTEMBER 8, 2003
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mark Mace
Dave Siljestrom
Marvin Carter
Lorraine Craig
William Staudinger
John Oakes
OTI-IEKS PRESENT: Steve Klotz, Public Works Director
Cheryll Lund, Secretary
Rick Musson, Police Chief
Gary Colley, Code Enforcement
Jean Kerr, City Judge
Eugene Tuka
Mark Mace opened the meeting as the interim Chairman while Gay Easton is absent.
Motion by Lorraine Craig, second by John Oakes to approve the minutes of the August 11, 2003
meeting. Motion carried.
Public Input
Mark asked the audience if anyone wanted to speak during this time. No one spoke.
Discussion on Nuisance Vehicle Ordinance Draft
Steve encouraged the committee to look at the draft and give him input. This Ordinance will replace
8.12.
Question on existing ordinances regarding the penalty amounts. General maximum penalty is $500 per
day with 6 months jail time. The judge can adjust the penalty as she sees it fits the violation.
The committee is looking at the Nuisance Vehicle Ordinance because of a case that was brought before
Judge Kerr in regards to a complaint at a house on 13th Avenue that had several junk vehicles in the yard
that were in plain view of the neighbors. (Steve passed out pictures of the property)
At this time Judge Kerr spoke. When this case came before her the defendant questioned his right as a
property owner to be allowed to do what he wanted on his own property. She fek that the defendant also
brought other issues forward that were not defined well in the ordinance. Because of that she has come
to the Committee to help with the re-writing of the nuisance ordinances.
Bill Staudinger thinks that the state passed a law that says if you have more than 3 vehicles you are
considered a junkyard and you have to install an 8-foot high fence around your property.
The Judge states that an 8-foot tail fence would not hide this problem from the neighbors.
Bill Staudinger states that the junk needs to be eliminated.
The Judge states that her point is that the ordinances need to be defined so they can be enforced without
any question.
Marvin questioned if they could put up a 40' X 60' pole barn?
Steve stated that they could put up a pole barn if it doesn't go over the maximum lot coverage.
Marvin questioned why that is not being enforced anywhere in town?
Steve stated that Marvin is right to say that if something was built many years ago (before zoning
existed) that does not conform to today's zoning the city cannot force that person to tear the building
down. Maybe that doesn't seen fair to the new person that wants to do the same thing but can't by
existing zoning laws.
Marvin feels that you are picking on people by not allowing them to do something someone else is
doing. His case in point is the City Councilman that built the large garage that sits to the north of the
high school. He said there are places all over town that are over their maximum allowed lot coverage.
Steve points out that Dan Mears project does meet the lot coverage and height according to Laurel
Municipal Code. Steve pointed out the large garage that was built up by the post office. That garage is
close to the maximum height allowed.
John Oakes states that the property being talked about is a junkyard. We need to put the owner up
against the hard spot, not let them put us up against the hard spot.
Judge Kerr stated that she doesn't sight people in; she just has to deal With the person in court. The
court needs more boundaries that are better defined.
John Oakes goes on to say that the town of Laurel has let their townspeople get away with over the years
and they are now all sitting back and laughing at everyone from the Police Chief on down to the City
Council and Gary Colley. He feels we have to get aggressive and start getting things done.
Mark Mace feels that we don't have any more problems than any other town in Montana that is going
through the same growing pains Laurel is with the new subdivisions that have no alleys and have
property sitting up against property. He feels that we are headed in the right direction by giving the
city employees better ordinances that can be effectively enforced. We don't need to give up, or get
mean, but keep heading in the right direction. This committee is doing that by reviewing the ordinances.
He feels that the difficult part will be in trying to deal with the people that have been doing the same
thing for 30 years, that is when Gary will really have to earn his wage.
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lohn Oakes clarified that what he meant by getting mean is to actually be forceful and enforce the
ordinances even if it means spending money on attorney fees.
ChiefMusson stated that enforcement is important but so is Community Policing. Sometimes we get
our best results by going to the door and talking with people face to face. In 2002-2203 between the
Police department and Code Enforcement concentrated on nuisance vehicles parked out on the street.
The Laurel Police Officers were working on nuisance vehicles even during the night shifts. Out of all
the people that they asked to move vehicles offthe street, or license them, only 1 person was issued a
ticket. Those were huge results. Sometimes you get better results by knocking on peoples door and
visiting with them. The current laws have been difficult to deal with but with the help of the Public
Works, Code Enforcement, Council and th/s committee, things can change.
Dave Siljestrom stated that he agrees with the phrase "my land is my property", but with that he believes
we, as property owners, have a responsibility that is as large as having our property, that you must have
a responsible attitude about what's yours when it is next to someone else's (property). He thinks that
everyone in the room has the responsibility to see that if the law's that are written don't work, fine, start
over and make them so that they do work. He doesn't want the "Big Brother" image, but he does want
to know that he can go out into his yard and whether he can stand there, or be on a second floor deck,
that he can look across at his neighbors yard and not see piles of trash. He doesn't think that is right.
He thinks the committee needs to start right here and find something that works.
Dave feels that on the dra~ #A. 1 that "trailers" needs to be added to the list. The draft talks about a
trailer attached to a vehicle, but not one that is not attached.
He also wants to add to #C, "or delivery type vehicles".
Steve stated that the draft does not specify an amount of vehicles allowed because there are families that
have 5 kids that drive. He put in clause of Inoperable Vehicle for that purpose.
Question on specification ora "parking area". Is there an ordinance that specifies what a "parking area"
would be?
Steve stated that they could put in a clause defining a "parking area".
In the past the Code Enfomement has allowed tarps and covers on vehicles as adequately storing them
from public view.
Steve goes on to add that the Code Enforcement Officer, Gary Colley, works with people to get
complaints handled. They are initially given 10 days to get the violation corrected but if they need more
time to accomplish it, depending on their circumstances, they are given more time. The department has
found that more is accomplished by working with people. Steve goes on to say that less than ~A percent
of complaints ever reach the point of being ticketed for their violation.
The other item that needs to be defined is whether or not the committee will recommend #D.3.b. Th/e
issue of people living in camp trailers when they are visiting relatives in Laurel has come up many
times. Generally the issue has been solved by the ordinances that prohibits camp trailers from hooking
into the city sewer, but Steve thinks there needs to be an ordinance to address it.
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Bill Staudinger thinks that the tarps that have been allowed are just as bad as the mess itsel£ It doesn't
take care of anything. It just covers up the mess.
Steve states that what people are doing by covering it with a tarp is keeping it from public sight. The
City doesn't know if it's an antique car or junk. To address that issue you would have to address
parldng of vehicles.
Gary Colley stated that if you are going to get rid of the tarps, then you need to get rid of the temporary
structures made with PVC covered with a canvas cover. Those are just as bad, especially after the cover
gets worn out. There are a lot of people in town that have temporary shelters.
Bill Staudinger stated that at least the temporary covers hide it from view.
Marvin Carter questioned what, in the new draft, would allow us to get rid of the nuisances at the 13th
Avenue violation?
Steve stated that the "Inoperable Vehicle" definition will make it impossible for anyone to store a
vehicle "that is incapable of immediate operation under its own power safely and in concurrence with
governing and applicable traffic ordinances and statues or any automobile not having current plates
lawfully affixed thereto.'
Steve stated that the committee might want to add a clause regarding ownership. That way there could
be no storage ora vehicle on that property that didn't belong to the property owner.
Mark Mace stated that we may need to start somewhere with an ordinance that addresses most cases.
Over time the ordinance will probably need to be amended to address some issues. But, we have to start
somewhere.
Question on time limit for violators?
Steve explained that when a complaint comes in to City Hall it is given to the Code Enforcement
Officer, Gary Colley. At that time Gary goes to the property and personally visits with the property
owner regarding the violation. The property owner is given a letter and 10 days to work on the
violation. Sometimes there are circumstances that require more time be given to the property owner.
Sometimes the property owner doesn't want to cooperate and a ticket has to be issued. But, most people
cooperate with the City to get the violation removed.
After a discussion it was decided that the Public Works staff.should set the time frame for cleanup of the
violation. As long as they are working on the problem they should be able to work with that individual.
Bill Staudinger feels that the longer time you give them the longer they will take.
Mark states that we will at least have this ordinance in place.
Steve Klotz says that the Public Works office doesn't want to be responsible for sending a little old lady
to jail for a violation that can be worked out in longer than 10 days. There are always exceptions that
have to be looked at. Extra time granted should be considered.
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Bill Staudinger states that there is a difference between elderly people and younger people. He feels you
have to be firm.
John Oakes states that the time frame should be lefr up to the Code Enforcement Officer. This particular
place being discussed is a different situation because this gentleman has the capabilities of cleaning it up
fast. This is a case where we need to be mean and forceful.
Mark Mace stated that the comm/ttee just needs to set the policy and let the Public Works Department
work with it so it works for them while dealing with the complaints.
John Oakes wonders if this draft should be taken before the City Attorney?
Dave Siljestrom stated that if the committee gives the police department and public works the tools to
work with, in this ordinance, that is a good place to start. He feels that the City Attorney should be
given the chance to review the ordinance.
The committee will review this ordinance again at it's October meeting.
Park Leases - Discussion
Steve Klotz stated there hasn't been much done on the leases. There are many issues that need to be
worked through. There was some discussion on the leases at a council workshop.
Steve introduced Gene Tuka. Gene is interested in buying the park, if the council officially decides to
sell the park. There are laws that govern the sale of public property.
Steve goes on to say that each lease will have to be looked at individually. This will take a lot of time to
do and what is decided also needs to be in the best interest of the tax paying citizens of Laurel. This
issue is going to take some time.
Gene Tuka spoke. He has 18 years experience running the park. He understands and knows a lot of
things about the park because of his history with the park. He loves the park. He was married in the
park and his son was born in the park. Things have changed over the years.
The clubs haven't changed. They expect the same type of treatment from many years ago and don't
want change. This creates conflicts within the clubs, towards the city.
His work ethic down at the park hasn't changed. He has talked with Steve many times. Times have
changed. Insurance has changed. The clubs don't understand because they are not kept informed.
Things allowed 20 years ago in the park couldn't be allowed now. Caretakers didn't have insurance 20
years ago. Now the issue has come up. He is glad he doesn't have the city council's job because you
can't please everyone.
He goes on to say that if the City plans to sell the park he wants to be right there. He didn't bring up
buying the park; the Rod and Gun Club brought it up. He and his wife researched the offer he made. If
there are changes in the park, he and his wife want to be involved.
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Mark Mace stated that the feedback has been that the Tuka's have done a good job being caretakers.
He also pointed out that whatever is going to be done in the park has to be for the benefit of all of the
taxpayer' s in Laurel.
The meeting was adjourned at 6:14 pm,
Respectfully submitted,
Cheryll Lurid, Secretary
CITY HALL
City Of Laurel
PUB WORKS: 628-4796
alii~ATER OFC: 628-7431
tLTKT: 628-1964 P.O. Box 10
'"~rAX: 628-2241
Laurel, Montana 59044
DEPARTMENT
MEMORANDUM
TO: Public Works Committee
FROM: Steve Klotz, Director of Public Works
RE: Draft Nuisance Ordinance
DATE: August 18, 2003
Recemly, a complaint was submitted to the Code Enforcement Division of Public Works.
The compla'mt claimed that a property was in violation of Laurel Municipal Code
Chapter 8.12.030, Lumber, garbage, motor vehicles and parts, furniture and appliances
prohibited. Upon investigation of the property and numerous attemlJtS to resolve the
issue, the property owner was noticed to Laurel City Court. The property owner was
stor/ng approximately 12 vehicles in his yard at his residence. The vehicles were
licensed and operational. Some of the vehicles were not owned by the property owner.
Laurel City Court determined that the existing ordinance wr/tten to address the issue was
not substantial or clear enough to make a ruling on. The City is still receiving complaints
and the situation is still in existence.
The attached draft nuisance ordinance is an attempt to improve the existing nuisance
ordinance. It ks a slightly modified version of the unified zoning regulations in effect in
Billings and Yellowstone County. The attached is meant only as a draft to be modified to
meet the character and uniqueness of this oommullity while better addressing simatiom at
hand.
Please take time to review the dralt, make changes, offer suggestions, and provide insight
for the drafting of a second draft to be presented at council. Please be prepared to discuss
this issue at the Public Works Comm/ttee meeting scheduled on Monday, September 8,
2003 at 5:00 pm. If you are unable to attend, please provide written comment. If you
have any questions feel free to call me at 628-4796.
CC: Gary Colley, Code Enforcement Inspector
Rick Musson, Chief of Police
Jean Kerr, City Judge
Mark Anderson, City Attorney
Bud Johnson, Mayor
Attached: L.M.C. 8.12.030
Draft Nuisance Ordinance
City Of Laurel is an EEO Employer
~.nnal [qnu~in~ C)nnnrmni~'
8.12.010
Chapter 8.12 8.12.020 Lawn irrigation.
No person shall irrigate lawns or shrub-
NUISANCES bery and allow the water to collect thereon
to such an extent that the same overflows
Sections: on another's property, or overflows and
8.12.010 Ice, snow, slush on collects in the gutter of the city streets.
sidewalks. (Prior code § 8.04.060)
8.12.020 Lawn irrigation.
8.12.030 Lumber, garbage, 8.12.030 Lumber, garbage, motor
motor vehicles and vehicles and parts,
parts, furniture and furniture and appliances
appliances prohibited, prohibited.
· 8.12.040 Noisome substances. A. It is a public nuisance for any person
8.12.050 Offensive matter on owning, leasing, occupying, or otherwise in
premises prohibited, charge or control of any promises to keep
8.12.060 Liquids allowed to or deposit on the premises, or to allow to
become nauseous accumulate or remain scattered over the
prohibited, premises, any of Se following:
8.1'.2.070 Cellars and drains in i. Lumber, garbage, rubbish, parts of
offensive condition, motor vehicles; or
8.12.080 Animal enclosures, 2. Abandoned, discarded or unused ob-
8.12.090 Outside toilets, jeers or equipment such as automobiles,
8.12.100 PenaltymAbatement. automobile paros, furniture, appliances, cans
8.12.1'10 Abatement assessment or comainem; unless
to property in lieu of- 3. Such itenls am in an enclosed build-
prosecution, ing or are so located on the prenlises so as
not lo be readily visible from any public
8.12.010 Ice, snow, slush nn place or from any surrounding private prop-
sidewalks, coy,
It is a public nuisance for the owner, B. It is a public nuisance Ibr any person
occupant or person otherwise in charge or owning, leasing, occupying, or otherwise in
control of any premises within the city charge or control of any premises to allow
limits to allow any ice, snow, slush, mud or any partially dismanded, wrecked, discard-
other impediment to safe pedestrian travel ed, abandoned, unlicensed, or otherwise
to accumulate or remain on any sidewalk in nonopcrating motor vehicle to be deposited,
front of or adjoining such premises. The kept or stored on the premises, unless the
person in charge or control of the premises vehicle is in an enclosed building or is so
must remove any such impediment from the located on the premises so as not to be
sidewalks within twenty-tburhours after its readily visible from any public place or
accumulation thereon, and must keep sid~- from any surrounding private property.
walks clean and safe forpedesman travel at C. This chapter shall not apply with
ag times. (Prior code § 8.04.1 i0) regard to any [umber, motor vehicle paris.
8.12.0~0
or motor vehicle on the premises of a bnsi- mai or vegetable mat~er which contaminates
ness enterprise operamd in a lawful place, the atmosphere or endangers or injures the
other than a residential district, and in a health of any person, or which is indecent
lawful manner, when the keeping ormainte- or offensive to the senses, or interferes with
nance of such lumber, motor vehicle parts, the comfort or enjoyment of any resident in
or vehicle is necessary to the operation of the city. (Prior code § 8.04.020)
the business en~rpdse, or with regard to
any vehicle in an appropriate storage place 8.12.060 Liquids allowed to become
or depository maintained in a lawful place nauseous prohibited.
and manner by the city or any public agen- It is unlawful for any person to cause or
cy or entity, permit any nauseous, foul or putrid liquor
D. Any person who allows a public or other liquid substance to be discharged,
nuisance as set for~ in this cbapmr to exist placed or thrown, or to Qow from or out of
shall be noQfied that the nuisance must be my promises into or upon any adjacent
removed within mn days after receipt of the premises, or any public street, alley, road or
notice. If the nuisance continues to exist sidewalk, or into any channel or w,~ter-
a,Czar that time, ~ person shall be guilty of course. (Prior code § 8.04.030)
a violatior~ of this chapter and shall be
punishable as set forth in Section 8.12.100. 8.12.070 Cellars and drains in
Such person shall be guilty of a separate offensive condition.
, ,~, offense for each day after thc ten day period ' Whoever shall suffer or cause any cellar,
that the nuisance continues to exist. Further- vault, drain, pool, privy, or sewer belonging
more, the chief of police may abate the to or-.controlled by him to become, from
nuisance~without prosecution, and the city any cause:', nauseous, fo,ul, offensive or
may assess the expense of the abatement to injurious to the public beaith, or unpleasant
the premises pumuant to Section 8.12.1 10. and disagreeable to adjacent residents or
(Ord. 1024, 1992; prior code § 8.04.100) persons, within the limits of the city, shall
be deemed guilty of committing a public
8.12.040 Noisome substanceS, nuisance. (Prior code § 8.04.040)
It is a public nuisance te cause or suffer
the camass of any animal or any offal, filth 8.12.080 Animal enclosures.
or noisome substance to be collected or to It is a public nuisance lbr any person to'
remain in any place in the city, or to the keep or maintain any pen or enclosure,
prejudice of others. (prior code § 8.04.010) stable or building for animals in such a
f'dthy or unwholesome condition as .to be
8.12.050 Offensive matter on offensive to neighbors or passersby, or
premises prohibited, injurious to the health of the neighborhood.
It is a public nuisance for any owner, (Prior code § 8.04.050)
lessee, occupant or resident of any premises
to suffer or cause ko be maintained on such 8.12.090 Outside toilets.
premises for twenty-four hours or longer It is a public nuisance to build or mom-
any unwholesome, decaying or puLUd ani-
CITY HALL
City Of Laurel
PUB WORKS: 628-4796
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FAX: 628.2241
La~eL Monm 590~
DEPARTMENT
A_ Definitions. For the purposes of tAds section, the terms used above shall be defined as
follows:
1. AUTOMOBILE: A two (2) or more wheeled or track vehicle designed to
transport one (1 or more persons or properties fi:om one (1) location to mother
including without limitation: tmclcs, buses, cars, motorcycles, scooters, farm
and industrial equipment.
2. INOPERABLE VEHICLE: Any automobile incapable of immediate operation
under its own power safely and in concurrence with governing and applicable
traffic ordinances and statues or any automobile not having current 1/cerise plats
lawfully sfl~xed thereto. '
3. PERMANENT STORAGE: Storage of chattel, salvage, rubbish or junk for a
period exceeding five (5) days without moving.
· 4. JUNK: Junk means any worn out, cast offor discarded article or material which
is ready for destruction or has been collected or stored as salvage, for
conversion to some ottlf~i~e or for r,~t~tction into components. Junk includes
but is not limited to oki or_~c~pe, rags, batteries, paper, tires, rubber
debris or waste, iron, sl~,~r~l ~ [dior scrap ferrous or non-ferrous
material.
5. JI.rNK VEH/CLE: A junk veh/cle means any automobile, which is rained,
wrecked, partially dismantled and which is not lawfully and validly licensed.
B. Abandoned Vehicles. All inoperable automobiles, or parts thereof; parked or stored
for a period exceeding five (5) days shall be considered abandoned. Any such
automobile that in the judgment of the Code Enforcement Officer appears to be
abandoned, including parts thereto, shall be removed and disposed of in a n'mmer set
forth by the Code Enforcement Officer.
C. Storage or Parking of Vehicles. In all residential zoning districts, storage or parking
of commercial vehicles shall be limited to one (1) delivery vehicle not to exceed eight
thousand (8,000) pounds G.V.W. (Gross Vehicle Weight).
D. Storage of Trailers and Recreational Vehicles. Snowmobiles, boats, motorized
vehicles that are incapable of being legally operated on a public street, or other
recreational vehicles and campers, camper trailers or motor homes, and utility/sport
traiIers whose manufacturers specifications do not exceed eight (8) feet in width and
twenty-seven (27) feet ia length shall be parked or stored as follows:
1. In rear yards; or
2. In side yards, providing that the following conditions are met:
a. The property does not have public alley access or other reasonable
access to the rear yard;
b. The side yard area to be used for such parking or storage has a
prepared surface of gravel, asphalt or concrete;
c. The unit shall not be parked any nearer than three (3) feet from the
side lot line or five (5) feet from any door, window, or other opening
of a dwelling which provides light, air, entrance to, or exit from the
dwelling as needed to preserve the health, safety, and general welfare
of the occupants of the dwelling; and
d. For purposes of tiffs section, the side yard ora comer lot, which is
adjacent to the street, is regarded as a front yard and no such parking
or storage is allowed.
3. Trailers may be parked in the street if attached to a towing unit and complying
with parking ordinances.
a. It shall be urflawful for any person or firm to park or store such
vehicles in any front yard.
b. It shall be unlawful to occupy campers, camping trailers, or motor
homes for livin.,,~r sleeping..p, urposes for longer than 14
c~'a~xler yearD ra ~t days per
E. Storage of Salvage.' Permanent open storage of salvage, inoperable vehicles, rubbish,
lumber, furniture, appliances, used oil, can, con~'alners, or Other chattel shall not be
permitted in any zoning district. Exceptions to this restriction axe principal uses of
property (e.g. auto wrecking), which may be permitted in business lawfully operated
in non-residential zomg districts, where the storage of such materials is necessary to
the operation of the business emerprise.
F. Inoperable Vehicle or Junk Vehicle. Storage, parking or leaving any inoperable
vehicle or junk vehicle shall not be permitted in any district. This section shall not
apply to:
I. Vehicles stored in conjunction with a business lawfully operated in non-
residential zoning districts, where the storage of such materials is necessaryto
the operation of the business; or
2. An automobile or part thereof which is completely enclosed within a building in
a 1.~wful manner and where it is not ¥isible from the street or other public or
private property.