HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity/County Planning Board Minutes 08.07.2003 MINUTES
LAUREL CITY-COI_rNTY PLANNING BOARD
AUGUST 7, 2003 7:00 PM
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Members present: Gerald Shay, Chairman
Doug Poehls, City Rep.
Ed Thurner, City Rep.
Kate Stevenson, City Rep.
Clarence Foos, County Rep.
Tom Robertus, County Rep.
Betty Hart, County Rep.
Laurel Haggart, City Rep.
Steve O'Neil, City Rep.
Others present: Cheryll Lurid, City Secretary
Motion by Doug Poehis, second by Laurel Haggart, to approve the minutes of the June 5,
2003 meeting. Motion carried 8 0.
Special Review - 20 7th Avenue - Friendship Veterina.w Center
Sharon Mohr (Kober) spoke regarding her veterinary hospkal.
She will be treating companion animals' only, no large animals. Animals will only stay overnight when
it is medically necessary. There will be no outside kennels.
Cai recommended that this application be approved, subject to no animals being kept outdoors, and that
the landscaping she plans becomes part of the approval, and that the City Council not hold a second
public hearing. (Cai was not present at the meeting due to his military commitment. He submitted his
recommendations in writing to the board.)
Motion by Laurel Haggart, second by Steve O'Neil that the board recommends to the City
Council that the ]Friendship Veterinary Center at 20 7t~ Avenue be allowed, subject to CaPs
recommendations, and that the City Council not hold a second public hearing. Motion carried
8-0.
Public Heafin~ - Preliminary Plat - Vista Buttes Subdivision
Mr. Clay Schwartz, PLS, spoke as a proponent of the preliminary plat.
The proposed subdivision consists of 10.094-acres of land. The proposed number of lots will be 5, with
each lot being between 1 to 2 acres. The intended use of the lots is for single-family dwellings.
Mr. Schwartz questioned the ditch easement.
Mr. Schwartz stated that the roads will be standard roads. Mr. Schwartz then requested a variance on
the 600-foot distance for the dead end road until such time that future development is done. At that time
they will extend the road westerly to Buffalo Trail.
Doug Poehls requested that Mr. Schwartz bring a written request for the easement to be put into the
record. He also questioned ditch access. Chairman Shay stated that the ditch concern was addressed in
Cal's recommendations.
The board reviewed the letter from the Laurel Volunteer Fire Department that listed their requirements.
Two letters of concern/protest were received from lira & Valorie Craft, 2344 S. 80~ Street and Ed Kraft,
Ir., 7428 Neibauer Road.
Mr. Schwartz asked if they could talk to Mr. Colley for any alternates from the LVFD's
recommendations?
Chairman Gerald Shay stated that Mr. Colley would be the one to talk to.
Opponents:
Jim Kraft spoke with some concerns he had. The ditch easement was one of the concerns, but that
seems to be addressed. He is curious as to the types of homes allowed in the subdivision. The other
concern is the dust on the road and asked if they planned some kind of dust suppression?
The opponents were questioned on the dust suppression. They stated that thesndo not have any plans at
this time to use dust suppression.
The public hearing was dosed at 7:15 pm.
Discussion by board. Several members were concerned w/th the amount of items that have not been
addressed such as the fire suppression.
Motion by Ed Thurner, second by Betty Hart, to table the preliminary plat application for Vista
Buttes until the September meeting so as to g/ye them time to work on items that have not addressed.
Motion carried 8-0.
Betty Hart suggests that the developers look at dust suppression for the road.
Mr. Schwartz addressed the chairman and stated that he has not received any of the communication from
the Fire Department or Cal's comments. The Chairman gave him the information.
Public Heating - Preliminary_ Plat - Clarks Fork Estates - JeffLaszloffy
JeffLaszloff3, spoke regarding the preliminary plat. The plat consists of 7.6 acres of which will be split
into 5 lots. It is located about 3 ~A miles south of Laurel.
McGee and Company is doing the consulting work on the subdivision. The 716 acres has previously
been agriculture. Thus that will take away 7.6 acres, but it will not interfere with irrigation systems or
agriculture within the vicinity. The subdivision will use on-site water system and sewage disposal.
Most of the fire department suggestions axe already in place and he will comply with the ones not in
place.
The main road coming into the subdivision is already in place. The driveways coming offthe main
roads into the subdivision will be done to specifications as the homes are built.
The water source for the fire department has not been addressed but will be done to LVFD
specifications.
Approximately $5000 will be added to the county tax base from the 5-lot subdivision.
The natural environment will not be effected by this subdivision. There will be no significant water nm-
off from this subdivision. Culverts are already in place. The subdivision will not effect the natural
vegetation. Areas that will be graded will be seeded the same season. This will not be located in any
significant wildlife habitat or cause any road closures to hunters or fishermen.
This meets all the requirements of the Montana Subdivision Platting Act.
No easements will be necessary for utilities as they are akeady in place. Access will be provided offof
Highway 212. The road will go across BNSF tracks. He has been in touch with BNSF and will follow
the proper procedures given to them by BNSF.
This conforms to the Comprehensive Plan adopted by the City of Laurel for the City-County Planning
area.
Mr. Laszloffy stated that he received a letter from Cai with some items he needed to address. Mr.
Laszloffy has taken care of most of the items, and will comply with the ones he hasn't.
Types of homes will be a minimum of 2000 square foot stick-built single family home.
The children in the subdivision will attend Laurel schools.
Mr. Laszloffy owns 50 acres contiguous to this land. Some of the land is in Carbon County, some in
Yellowstone County. The reason they are subdividing is so they can build a home. They have no plans
to sell any more of their property.
Opponents:
None. The public hearing was closed at 7:30 pm.
Discussion by board.
Ed Thurner questioned Mr. Laszloffy regarding whether or not the state legislators feel pressure from
Realtors during the legislative process? He asked whether or not they had a lot of control in the
legislature?
Mr. Laszloff3, said that the realtors do have concerns, so they are in the debates, but he doesn't feel they
exert any more pressure than anyone else.
Ed went on to say that a lot of times the board feels helpless because there is so much the board can't
address that are in the state law, like school impact. Ed feels like the tavern owners and realtors can get
together and have a stronger voice than the Planning Board members do. He questions what can be
done about that?
Mr. Laszloffy states that every group possible has a lobbyist in Helena. He seems to think that Planning
Boards should be able to do the same.
Betty Harts want to go back to Cal's recommendations. She felt Mr. Laszloffy wasn't given all of the
recommendations from Cal and is wondering if he hasn't had a chance to address the issues.
Mr. Laszloffy stated that he wasn't sure when Cai left, but Cai did send him some hand-written
correspondence.
Betty inquires about the increase in traffic this subdivision will cause on Highway 212. Has this been
addressed?
Mr. Laszloffy states that this shouldn't bring a significant amount of increase. Once the highway is
redone the amount of traffic should drop dramatically.
Question on the high water mark on Lot 1. Mr. Laszloff-y states that this piec* of property is in the 500- '
year floodplain.
Question on ditch access across this property? Mr. Laszloffy states that there is a dedicated head gate .
that serves his farm.
Question by Steve O'Neil as to how we can approve this preliminary plat when we didn't approve the
last one because of unsolved issues?
Kate Stevenson stated that the issue offlre protection was not addressed for Vista Buttes Subdivision,
except to ask for a variance from the Fire Department but Mr. Laszloffy addressed it for Clark's Fork
Estates subdivision.
Motion by Doug Poehls, second by Betty Hart to recommend approval of the preliminary plat for
Clarks Fork Estates, subject to the conditions set by Cai and the Fire Department recommendations.
Motion carded 5-3.
Motion by Doug Poehls, second by Steve O'Neil to pull Vista Buttes preliminary plat offthe
table. Motion failed by a vote of 3-5. Preliminary plat will stand as a tabled item.
At this time Steve O'Neil tendered his resignation. (see attached)
Chairman Shay thanked Mr. O'Neil for his time and service on the board.
4
Public Input
No one spoke during the public input portion of the agenda.
The meeting was adjourned at 7:50 pm.
Respectfully submitte~d, /]
~cre~
5
CaPs recommendations for Agenda items, August 7th Planning Board Meeting. (lie will 1~
in Canada on military maneuvers.)
1. Approval of minutes...
2. Growth Management Plan: Cai will present updates at next meeting.
3. Special Review for 20 Seventh Avenue, Sharon Mohr, Veterinary Hospital:
This is located in the Central Business Zonin~ District (CBD), but, since she will be keeping
some ~nimsl~ overnight, she needs to go through thi~ Special Review process to allow the City
impose conditions it might deem necessary. Recommend approval of this subject to no animals ..
being kept ont of doors and that the landscaping she plans to put in becomes part oftbe approval.
Both of these she is already plsnning to do, but they should be part of the approval process.
Siguage, trs~c, lot coverage, and ingress and egress--no problems seem It is also a compatible
land use in the CBD, and ~he business win draw people downtovax
4. Preliminary Plat, Vista Buttes Minor Subdivision: Recommend approval of
this plat to the County Commissioners subject to the following conditions:
A. Approval by the Montsna Depattment of Environrnental Quality;
B. the Subdivision Improvements Agreement (SI.A) must spell out what
improvements are planned, when such improvements will be installed, and who will pay for
them and how. This includes individual lot aeeeas, roads, signage, water and sewer systems,
utilities, and drainage;
:C. completion of vegetation ami'weed management plan as per the County
Weed Depm'maent;
D. conditions listed in letter f~om County Public Works' Craig Mamey (see
attaebed);
E. provision for m,intensnee and contlm,snee of the existing irrigation
ditches being used by adjaexa~ properties must be included in the SIA; and
F. note that uny further development/subdivision of this land (as shown in the
master plan) will require review as a major subdivision with complete Environmental Impact
Assessment and public hearing. Such subdivision will probably also require a provision for road
paving at some time in the future.
4. Preliminary Plat, Clark's Fork Estates Minor Snbdivision: Recoi-,,,end
approval of this pint to the County Commlgsioller5 stlbject to the following conditions:
A. Approval by tbe Montana Dsparmaent of Environmental Quality;
B. that the location of the powerline serving the area be identified;
that adjacent property owne~ to the north be identified andthe property
buundaxy be clarified (there is a split in Tract 2 COS 2135); (See also reference to an amended
plat of Tract 1 COS 2613 (Tract l-M), a 7;88-aere parcel and the need to identify it on the
preliminary plat--per County Health Depaz t~aent letter;)
D. that a letter from BNSF be obtainecLstating the increase in traffic does not
affect the mil crossing agreement the subdivider-has with the railroad;
E. that comm~m{cafion be received l~om the Montana Dep~mJem of
Highways allowing increased traffic at the access onto US Highway 212;
F. that any improvements required to the access by either MDT or BNSF be
included in the Subdivision Improvements Agreement (SI_A) as to when such improvements will
be installed and by whom;
G. t~ amOUnt ofaereag¢ in thc "romalndcl°' be indicated on the preliminary
plat, and, if-less than 20 acres in size, must also have DEQ approval;
H. the SIA must spell out provision for individual lot access and culverts,
water systems, and sewage disposal as to what is proposed, who will pay for it, and when it will
I. compliance with County Weed Dcpmtment suggestions as attachext.
6. Co,,ncil Agenda Items: Planning Board r~commends approval of the Special
Revue by Dr. Sharon Mohr at 20 Seventh Avenue subject to conditions listed, and that the City
Council not hold a public bearing.
7. Miscellaneous...
8. Public Input...
City Of Laurel
PUB WORKS 625.4796
WATER. OFC: 62~-7431
COURT: 628-1964 P.O. Box ~.0
FAX: 628-2241
Laurel, Moat2ma 59044
P Y-~2W-N ING BO/~D
DEPARTh~
APPLICATION FORM- SPECIAL REVIEW
The undersigned as owner or agent of the following described
property requests a Special Review as outlined in the City Zoning
Ordinance:
General Descriptiod (a~dress) :
~ATTAC2t 1w_%p SHOWZI~G D~SIONS, ACREAGE ~ LO~TION OF T~CT:
O~er of Tract: ~'~
Attach site plan:
Time Sckedu!e for development:
,
I understand that the filing fee accompanying this application
is not refundable and that it pays part of the cost in processin9.
Also> that all information presented is true and correct.
Petitioner's Signature: _~k~ /~., ~"la'~x ..~;,;!___
Petition No.: 03-(~2( 5{~
Fee paid and date: ?-'a"O,~ &t J-C, ,00'
City Of Laurel is an EEO ~.mployer'
Proposed business: Fr/endsh/p Veterinary Center
20 Seventh Avenue
Laurel, MT 59044
Owner. SharonlC Mohr,DVM (Kober)
524 3~a Avenue S.W.
Park City, MT 59063
406-633-2833
Location:In east one-third of building at 20 Seventh Avenue, Laurel, owned by Ron and
Natalie Boucher, operated as R and N Appliances.
Proposed use: Veterinary facilily where medical and surgical care of compardon animals
will be conducted ~om 8:00 am to 5:00 pm, M-F and 9:00am to 12:00pm
Saturdays. A.t~er-hours care will be provided to animals as necessary.
.............. Some animals will need to be hospitalized overnight for treatments; No
formal boarding is being planned due to space limitations, but some '
boarding °f animals may be necessary in the future, i.e. Rabies quarantine
animals needing multiple medications or diabetic treatments while owners
are away, etc.
Traffic: Il*business goes well there may be up to 20-30 cars visiting the facility dm/ng
the entire day.
iEnvironmental effects: Should be minimal-vents will be located in the dog and cat
wards, which are small rooms and vent outdoors. Minimal
anesthetic gas (isoflurane) will be ventec[ Waste materials will
be disposed of into waste receptacles, as no d~alns are located in
the animal wards for kennel cle~ming with large amounts of
water. Medical waste will be disposed of in regulation containers
and sites.
Appearance: Landscape rock is placed between the building and sidewalk, and between
the sidewalk and the street curb. A non-lighted sign will be mounted on-'
the bullding.'s east fi'ont.
I expect there to be minimal traflSc impact to most residents as we are only one block
north of Main Street. I also expect minimal noise as animals are housed indoors and
there are no outdoor kennels.
I hope to become a small but integral part of the business climate in Laurel. I grew up in
Park City, have relatives in Laurel and have worked in Laurel for twelve of my work/rig
years- nine as a vetemm~ian, I feel my business can positively affect Laurel.
Thank you,
August 7, 2003
Laurel- Yellowstone City-County Planning Board
Laurel, Mt. 59044
Dear Board Members & Mayor of the City of Laurel:
Due to other personal pursuits and priorities, iris with this letter that I wish to resign my
position as a City Representative of the Laurel City-County Planning Board.
I wish to express my gratitude to the other members for the time spent and give my
sincere thank.q to all. This experience has been very eye opening and my hat is offto all
of you in your continued efforts to "do the right thing".
Thank you again and best wishes always!
· ' LAUREL - YELLOWSTONE
CITY- COUN'rY PLANNING BOARD
APPLICATION FOR PRELIMINARY SUBDMSION PLAT APPROVAL
1. Name of Subdivision: CLARK'S FORK ESTATES
2. Location:
A. Legal Description: NW ¼ Sec. 33, T2S., R24E, Yellowstane County
B. Genial Location: 3 miles S. of Laurel along Hwy 212 at Yellowstone Valley Farms
3. Name of Subdivider: Serf and Jceni~r 1 .a~offy
Address: 3165 Hwy 212, Laurel, MT 59044
Phone No.: 628-4705
4. Name of Owner: same
Phone No.:
5. Subdivision Description Data:
A. Ga'oss Acres:
B. Net Ar~a: 7.6 acres
C. Numl~r of Lets: 5
D. Maximum Size: 3.6
E. Minimum Siz=. 1.0
F. Lincel Fcet of Slr~t: 600-700
G. Dom~/¢ %Va~er Source: wells
II. Ex,dug La~d Use: agdanltural (hay/al~! ~)
I. Existing Zon~g: none
~. ~d Use or Purpose: nnal, s~gle family r~sidcetial
6. Park Rc~lu~eme~t Proposal: NONE R~Q~ Cash (dollars); Land (acres)
7. Varianc~ R~ltm~ed From Subdivision Regulations and R~ason~ Therefor~
A.
B.
8. Material Submitted with ~his Application:
A. F~.. $150.00 B. F~nd,~ngs of Fact
C. SIA & Weir= D. List ofadjac~I owners
E. Prel~-i.a~ Plat F. L~er to BNSF
9. Name, Address ond Telephone Numbar of Professional C~anltants:
A. Land Sm'veyor or Engineer: Mc(See and Company, Inc.
1925 Pinyon Drive.
Laurel, MT 59044
(406) 628-8101
13. Attorney..
C:. Olhen
I declare that I am the owner of record of the above deseril~d propex'e/, and have examined all statea'nents
and information contained herein, and all attached oxhibits, and to the best of my knowledge and b~lief~ is
true and correct.
Owner(s):.
CITY HALL ~ *
' City Of Laurel
PUB WORKS: 628-4796
WATER OFC: 628-7431
COURT: 628-1964 P.O. Box 10
FAX: 628-2241
Laurel Montana 59044
August 7, 2003 DEPARTMENT
Clark's Fork Estates Subdivision
Attn: Jeffand Jennifer Laszloffy
3165 Highway 212
Laurel, Montana 59044
Dear Property Owners,
In reviewing the proposed Clark's Fork Estates Subdivision, the Laurel Volunteer Fire
Department recommends the following issues be addressed so we can adequately service
this subdivision. The issues are access roads, road surfacing, turning radius, dead ends,
addresses, and water supply.
The collector road shall have an unobstructed width of not less than 20 feet and an
unobstructed vertical clearance of not less than 13 feet 6 inches. The mmarounds shall
have an inside mining radii of not less than 30 feet and an outside turning radii of not less
than 45 feet. These roads shall be all-weather surface roads.
Access to individual properties via the collector road shall be addressed within the 1997
Uniform Fire Code Article 9. Without knowing where the structures are to be placed upon
individual properties, the driveways leading to the structures located on these properties
shall provide an unobstructed width of not less than 20 feet and an unobstructed vertical
clearance of not less than 13 feet 6 inches when any portion of an exterior wall of the first
stopy ora building is located more than 150 feet fi.om the collector road. Access roads of
less than 150 feet in length shall provide an unobstructed width of not less than 12 feet and
an unobstructed vertical clearance of not less than 13 feet 6 inches. Dead-and fire
apparatus access roads in excess of 150 feet in length shall be provided with approved
provisions for the turning around of a fire apparatus. These roads shall be all-weather
surface roads.
Addresses shall be posted on collector road and on residences as outlined in Uniform Fire
Code Article 9 Section 901.4.4. We have requested that a 4X4 posts be placed next to the
collector road at the lane or road leading to residence. This post will have a blue reflector
placed near top to identify it and below have the residence number. These numbers shall
be clearly visible and readable fi.om collector road.
The subdivion shall provide the Laurel Volunteer Fire Department with a supply of 10,000
gallons of water for the proposed 5 residences. TNs supply will be an underground storage
tank with piping and fittings to meet the fire department standards and needs. Access to
tank shall meet the approval of the Fire Department and that at least two (2) truck lengths
be reserved off of the road for positioning of apparatus. The tank will be purchased,
installed, and rnaintalned by the property owners. We request that the tank be installed
proir to completion of the first structure.
City Of Laurel is an EEO Employer
Equal Housing Opportunity
Once tank is complete the department will request that use of it in emergencies in the area
be allowed and refilling of it will be the departments responsibility in those cases. All
other times it will be the responsibility of the subdivision to keep it full.
Should more than 5 residences be established and additional water supply will be required.
We have established that in rural areas we will need 10,000 gallons of storage for five
residences. As a sixth residence is established you will need to provide us with an
additional 10,000 gallons of water, located at an agreed location, prior to its completion.
With these issues being addressed prior to the subdivsion being built the Laurel Volunteer
Fire Department should be able to adequately service this subdivision. If you have any
further questions or need any further assistance please feel t~ee to contact me at 6284796.
0~ectfully'
Gary A. Colley, Facilitator
Subdivision Review Committee
Laurel Volunteer Fire Department
Cc: Teru Ruff, Fire Chief
Committee Members
Rob Harris, LVFD
Jason Shovar, LVFD
Jason Ness, LVFD
Attached: 1997 Uniform Fire Code Article 9
1997 UNIFOR~M FIRE C~DE 901
902.2.2.1
PAR T III
GENERAL PROVISIONS FOR SAFETY
ARTICLE 9 -- FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS AND WATER SUPPLY
SECTION 901 -- GENERAL 901.4.5 Street or road signs. When required by the chief, streets
and roads shall be identified with approved signs.
901.1 Scope. Fire department access and water supply shall be
in accordance with Article 9. 901.5 Obstruction and Control of Fire Apparatus Access
Roads and Fire-protection Equipment. See Sections 902.2.4
For firesafety daring consWacfion, alteration or demolition of a and 1001.7.
building, see A~ticle 87.
901.6 Fire Protection in Recreatio~ui Vehicle, Mobile Home
901-2 Permits and Plans. and Manufactured Housing Parks, Sales Lots and Storage '
Lots. Recreational vehicle, mobile home and manufactured
901.2.1 Permits. A permit is requ/red to use or operate fire hy- housing parks, sales lots and storage lots shall provide and main-
dmats or valves intended for fire-suppression purposes which are taui fire hydrants and access roads in accordance with Sections
installed on water systems and accessible to public highways, 902 and 903.
alleys or private ways open to or generally used by the public. Sea
Section 105, Permit f.1. EXCEPTION: Recreational vehicle parks Iomted ia r~moto ar~
shall be provided with protection and access roadways as required by
EXCEPTION: A permit is not required for pomona employed and the chief.
authorized by the water company which supplies the system to use or
opera£e tim hydrants or vaiv=s. SECTION 902 -- FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS
901.2.2 Plans. 902.1 General. Fire department access roads shall be provided
901.2.2.1 Fire apparatus access. Plans for fire apparatus access and maintained in accordance with Sections 901 and 902.
roads shall be submitted to the fire department for review and ap- 902.2 Fire Apparatus Access Roads.
proval prior to construction.
902.2.1 Required access. Fire apparatus access roads shall be
901.2.2.2 Fire hydrant systems. Plans and specffications for provided in accordance with Sections 901 and 902.2 for every
fire hydrant systems shall be subm/ttod to the fire department for facility, building or portion of a building hereafter constructed or
review and approval prior to construction, moved into or within the jurisdiction when any portion of the
fadility or any portion of an exterior wall of the first story of the
901.3 Timing of Installation. When fire protection, including building is located mom than 150 feet (45 720 mm) from fire
fire apparatus access roads and water supplies for fire protection, apparatus access as measured by an approved route around the
is required to be installed, such protection shall be installed and exterior of the building or facility. See also Section 902.3 for par-
made serviceable prior to and during the time of construction, sonnel access to buildings.
EXCEPTION: When alternate mothod~ of protecl/ea, as EXCEFrIONS: 1. When buildiags a~e completely protected w/th
approved, are provided, the mqu/rements of Section 901,3 may be In approved automatic fire sprinkler system, the providens of Sections
modified or wa/red. 902.2.1 and 90~2.2 may be modified by the chef.
901.4 Required Marking of Fire Apparatus Access Roads, 2. When access roads cannot bo installed due to location on property,
Addresses and Fire-protection Equipment. topography, waterways, nonnegotiable grades or o~her slm/la~ condi-
tions, the chief is authorized to require additional tiro protection as spe-
901.4.1 General. Marking of fire apparatus access roads, c/fled in Section 1001.9.
addresses and fire-protection eqdipment shall be in accordance 3. Whoa diere are not more than two Group R. Division 3. or Group
U Occupancies, the reqa/rements of Sections 902.2.1 and 902.2.2 may
with Section 901.4. be modified by the chief.
901.4.2 Fire apparat~ access roads. When required by the Moro than one fire apparatus road shall be provided when it is
chief, approved signs or other approved notices shall be provided determined by the chief that access by a single road m/ght be/m-
and maintained for fire apparates access roads to identify such pa/red by vehicle congestion, condition of term/n, climatic condi-
roads and prohibit the obstruction thereof or both. tions or other factors that could limit access.
901.4.3 Fire-protection equipment and fire hydrants. Fire- For high-piled combustible storage, see Section 8102.6.1.
protection equipment and fire hydrants shall be clearly identified For required access during construction, alteration or demoli-
in an approved maaner to prevent obstruction by parking and other tion of a building, see Section 8704.2.
obstructions. 902.2.2 Specifications.
When required by the chief, hydrant locations shall be
902.2.2.1 Dimensions. Fire apparatus access roads shall have an
identified by the installation of reflective markers.
unobstructed width of not less than 20 feet (6096 mm) and an un-
See also Section 1001.7. obstructed vertical clearance of not less than 13 feet 6 inches (4115
mm).
901.4.4 Premises identification. Approved numbers or ad-
dresses shall be provided for all new and existing balld/ngs in such EXCEFIION: Vertical clearance may be reduced, provided such
reduction does not/repair access by fire apparatus aad approved signs
a position as to be plainly visible and legible from the street or road are installed and maintained indicating the established vertical cie, ar.
fronting the property, anco when approved.
1-27
1997 UNIFORM FIRE CODE '~ '~ 903.4.1.3
903.4.4
903.4.1.3 Tampering and obstruction. See Sections 1001.6 ms by roads meeting the requirements of Section 902.2.
and 1001.7. 903.4.3 Protection, marking and obstruefian of hydrants.
903.4.2 Required installations. The location, number amd type Fire hydrants subject to possible vehicular damage shall be adc-
of f/re hydrants connected to a water supply capable of delivering quately protected with guard posts in accordance with Section
the requked f'~re flow shall be provided on the public street or on 8001.13_.3. For marking, see Section 901.4.3. For obstruction, see
the site of the premises or both to be protected as required and ap- Section I001.7.
proved. See Appendix III-B. 903.4.4 Maintenance and use of hydrants. See Sections
Fire hydrants shall be accessible to the fire department appara- 1001.5 and 1001.6.2.
1-29
~-~=. ' ~ ~ity Of Laurel
PUB WORIfS: 628..4796
WATEI~ OFC: 628-7431
CO~T: a~lg~ P.O. ~ 10
F~: 628-~1 ~ ~ ~ .
D~~
A~CA~ON FOR M~MI~RY P~T AP~ROV~
I dectare ~at I am the owner of=record.anc[ have examined'afl statements anci information contained
herein, and ali a~.tagl3e~t exhibitS.~nd to the best of my knowledge, anc~ t3ellef; .it is tr~e and correct.
City of T.~u.r~ ~ ~ ]KEO E~nptoyer
CITY HALL ~ ~
' City Of Laurel
PUB WORKS: 628-4796
WATER OFC: 628-7431
COURT: 628-1964 P.O. Box 10
FAX: 628-2241
Laurel, Montana 59044
August 7, 2003 DEPARTMENT
Vista Buttes Subdivision
Attn: Frank T. Pelcian & Verlin C. Hale
P. O. Box 549
Billings, Montana 59103
Dear Sirs,
In reviewing the proposed Vista Buttes Subdivision, the Laurel Volunteer Fire Department
recommends the following issues be addressed so we can adequately service this
subdivision. The issues are access roads, road surfacing, turning radius, dead ends,
addresses, and water supply.
The collector road shall have an unobstructed width of not less than 20 feet and an
unobstructed vertical clearance of not less than 13 feet 6 inches. The tumarounds shall
have an inside turning radii of not less than 30 feet and an outside turning radii of not less
than 45 feet. These roads shall be all-weather surface roads.
Access to individual properties via the collector road shall be addressed within the 1997
Uniform Fire Code Article 9. Without knowing where the structures are to be placed upon
individual properties, the driveways leading to the structures located on these properties
shall provide an unobstructed width of not less than 20 feet and an unobstructed vertical
clearance of not less than 13 feet 6 inches when any portion of an exterior wall of the first
story of a building is located more than 150 feet fi-om the collector road. Access roads of
less than 150 feet in length shall provide an unobstructed width of not less than 12 feet and
an unobstructed vertical clearance of not less than 13 feet 6 inches. Dead-end fire
apparatus access roads in excess of 150 feet in length shall be provided with approved
provisions for the turning around of a fire apparatus. These roads shall be all-weather
surface roads.
Addresses shall be posted on collector road and on residences as outlined in Uniform Fire
Code Article 9 Section 901.4.4. We have requested that a 4X4 posts be placed next to the
collector road at the lane or road leading to residence. This post will have a blue reflector
placed near top to identify it and below have the residence number. These numbers shall
be clearly visible and readable from collector road.
The subdivion shall provide the Laurel Volunteer Fire Department with a supply of 10,000
gallons of water for the proposed 5 residences. This supply will be an underground storage
tank with piping and fittings to meet the fire department standards and needs. Access to
tank shall meet the approval of the Fire Department and that at least two (2) truck lengths
be reserved off of the road for positioning of apparatus. The tank will be purchased,
installed, and maintained by the property owners. We request that the tank be installed
proir to completion of the first structure.
City Of Laurel is an EEO Employer
Equal Housing Opportunity
Once tank is complete the department will request that use of it in emergencies in the area
be allowed and refilling of it will be the departments responsibility in those cases. All
other times it will be the responsibility of the subdivision to keep it full.
Should more than 5 residences be established and additional water supply will be required.
We have established that in rural areas we will need 10,000 gallons of storage for five
residences. As a sixth residence is established you will need to provide us with an
additional 10,000 gallons of water, located at an agreed location, prior to its completion.
With these issues being addressed prior to the subdivsion being built the Laurel Volunteer
Fire Department should be able to adequately service this subdivision. If you have any
further questions or need any further assistance please feel free to contact me at 628-4796.
0o,qectfully'
Gary A. Colley, Facilitator
Subdivision Review Committee
Laurel Volunteer Fire Department
Cc: Terry/tuff, Fire Chief
Committee Members
Rob Harris, LVFD
Jason Shovar, LVFD
Jason Ness, LVFD
Attached: 1997 Uniform Fire Code Article 9
1997 UNIFORMS1 FI.RE C,~ODE 901
902.2.2.1
PAR T III
GENERAL PROVISIONS FOR SAFETY
ARTICLE 9 -- FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS AND WATER SUPPLY
SECTION 901 -- GENERAL 901.4.5 Street er road signs. When required by the chief, streets
and roads shall be identified with approved signs.
901.1 Scope. Fire department access and water supply shall be
in accordance with Article 9. 901.5 Obstruction and Control of Fire Apparatus Access
Roads and Fire-protection Equipment. See Sections 902.2.4
For ftresafety during construction, alteration or demolition of a and 1001.7.
building, see Axticle 87.
901.6 Fire Protection in Recreational Vehicle, Mobile Home
901.2 Permits and Plans. and Manufactured Housing Parks, Sales Lots and Storage
Lots. Recreational vehicle, mobile home and manufactured
901.2.1 Permits. A permit is required to use or operate fire by- housing parks, sales lots and storage lots shall provide and main-
. drants or valves intended for fire-suppression purposes which are lain fire hydrants and access roads in accordance with Sections
installed on water systems and accessible to pubfic highways, 902 and 903.
alleys or private ways open to or generally used by the public. Sec
Section 105, Permit f.1. EXCEPTION: Recreational vehicle parks located in remote areas
shall be provided with protection and access roadways as required by
EXCEPTION: A permit is not required for pemous employed and the chief.
authorized by the wa~r company which supplies the system to usc or
operate fir= hydrams or valves. SECTION 902 -- FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS
901.2.2 Plans. 902.1 General. Fire department access roads shall be provided
901.2..2.1 Fire apparatus access. Plans for fire apparatus access and maintained in accordance with Sections 901 and 902.
roads shah be submitted to the fire department for review and ap- 902.2 Fire Apparatus Access Roads.
provdi prior to coustraction.
902.2.1 Required access. Fire apparatus access roads shall be
901.2.2.2 Fire hydrant systems. Plans and specifications for provided in accordance with Sections 901 and 902.2 for every
fire hydrant systems shall be submitted to the ~re deparflnant for facility, building or portion of a building hereafter constructed or
review and approval prior to construction, moved into or within the jurisdiction when any portion of the
facility or any portion of an exterior wall o~ the first story of the
901.3 Timing of Iustallation. When fire protection, including building is located more than 150 feet (45 720 mm) from fire
fire apparatus access roads and water supplies for fire protection, apparatus access as measured by an approved mute around the
is required to be installed, such protection shall be installed and exterior of the bhilding or facility. See also Section 902.3 for per-
made serviceable prior to and during the time of construction, sormal access to buildings.
F.,XCFJPTION: When altomat~ methods of protection, ~z EXCEPTIONS: 1. Wh~ buildings are completely prot~ct~t with
approved, am provided, the r~quirem~ts of Section 901.3 may be an approved automatic fire sprinkler system, the provisions of Sections
modified or waived. 902.2.1 and 902.2.2 may be modified by the chief.
901.4 Required Marking of Fire Apparatus Access Pamds, 2. When ace.s roads cannot be installed due to location on prapea'ty,
Addresses and Fire-protuction Equipment. topography, waterways, nonnegotiable grades or other similar condi-
tions, the chief is authorized to requite eddifional fire protection as ape-
901.4.1 General. Marking of fire apparatus access roads, cified in Scedon 1001.9.
addresses and fire-protection equipment shall be in accordance 3. When there ate not mote than two Group R, Division 3, or Group
U Occupancies. the requirements of Sections 902.2.1 and 902.2.2 may
with Section 901.4. h= modified by the chief.
901.4.2 Fire apparatus access reads. When required by the More than one fire apparatus road shall be provided when it is
chief, approved signs or other approved notices shall be provided determined by the chief that aace~s by a single road might be ira-
and maintained for fire apparatus access roads to identify such paired by vehicle congestion, condition of terrain, climatic condi-
roads and prohibit the obstruction thereof or both. tions or other factors that could limit access.
901.4.3 Fire-protection equipment and Rte hydrants. Fire- For high-piled combustible storage, see Section 8102.6.1.
protection equipment and fire hydrants shall be clearly identified For required access during construction, alteration or dsmdii-
in an approved manner to prevent obstruction by parking and other tion of a building, see Section 8704.2.
obstructions. 902.2.2 Specifications.
When required by the chief, hydrant locations shall be 902.2.2.1 Dimeusious. Fire apparatus access roads shall have an
identified by the installation of reflective markers, unobstructed width of not less than 20 feet (6096 mm) and an un-
See also Section 1001.7. obstructed vertical clearance of not less than 13 feet 6 inches (4115
mm).
901.4.4 Premises identification. Approved numbers or ad- EXCEPTION: Vertical cleaxancc may be reduced, proxdded such
I dresses shall be provided for all new and existing buildings in such reduction does not impair access by fire appararas and approved signs
a position as to be plainly visible and legible from the s~eet or road are installed and maintained indicating the established verdcal clear-
fronting the property, anc= when approved.
1-27
1997 UNIFORM FIRE CODE 903.4.1.3
i~ '* 903,4.4
903.4.1.3 Tampering and obstruction. See Sections 1001.6 ms by roads meeting the requirements of Section 902.2.
and 1001.7. 903.4.3 Protection, marI~ng and obstruction of hydrants.
903.4.2 Required installations. The location, number and type Fire hydrants subject to possible vehicular damage shall be adc- I
of fire hydrants connected to a water supply capable of delivering quately protected with guard posts in accordance with Section
I
the required fire flow shall be provided on the public street or on 8001.11.3. For marking, see Section 901.4.3. For obstruction, see
the site of the premises or both to be protected as required and ap- Section 1001.7.
proved. See Appendix III-B. 903.4.4 Maintenance and use of hydrants. See Sections
Fire hydrants shall be accessible to the fire department appara- 1001.5 and 1001.6.2.
1-29
Cheryll
From: James and Valode Kraft [jameskraff(~imt.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:24 PM
To: clund@ci.laurel.mt.us
Subject: Vista Buttes Sub, 1 st Filining
This letter is from my brother Ed Kraft Jr..
Dear Cheryll,
I own the property directly adjacent to the north of this proposed
subdivision. I am quite alarmed by this development way out west of
Billings in an agricultural open area. Subdivisions usually aren't real
compatible with agriculture for a vadety of reasons:
1. People living next to open range feel they have the freedom to let their
dogs stray onto to the neighbors property. Dogs are no friend to cattle and
livestock, and when in packs, can do a lot of damage. Unfortunatelywhen
the damage is discovered, the dogs are long gone. Granted there are many
responsible dog owners, but there are just as many un responsible ones.
Agriculture economics is strained enough already, we don't need dogs or
packs of dogs cutting into our narrow profits
2. Neibauer Road is a narrow farm to market road that will break down with
heavy traffic since the county just used old millings to construct the road
between 72nd and 80th St. West. The increased traffic will also hinder ag
operations with the movement of machinery and equipment between my farro
lands. Most suburbanites aren't patient with slow moving farm equipment and
tend to have road rage reactions. I've experienced this many times on 72nd
St. West, and now it will move also onto Neibauer Road and 80th St West.
3. I've noticed in the SIA that one of the evaluation criteria is wildlife
habitat. Living in this area all my life of 61 years, there are numerous
antelope, roany whitetail and mule deer, along with fox, coyote, raccoon,
pheasant, sage grouse and other wildlife inhabiting these hills. A mountain
lion was even spotted by a neighbor last winter and also this summer. A
subdivision in these hills will just push this wildlife into other areas or
farther west.
4. I and my family live and make our livelihood in the country and we have
a certain quality of life and quietness. With a subdivision next door to my
property, that goes away. Is that fair to me and my heirs who want to
continue with this occupation and way of life?
5. Finally, a philosophical observation. The migration of subdivisions
west of Billings is eating up prime agricultural ground at a faster pace
than it can be replaced. How does any planning department determine this is
a good thing for the overall sustainability of agriculture? Since we
apparently have no County Zoning Regulations, a residential subdivision in
agricultural land is allowed unchecked. I realize this is evident all over
the country, but when does agriculture, the very industry that feeds all of
us, have a higher priority than subdivisions and houses? When will planned
development really ever occur? Years ago our forefathers had the foresight
to develop ditches to irrigate the fertile lands west (and east) of
Billings and Laurel, and taxpayers spent millions of dollars to make this
land productive for agriculture. Now we are reversing that whole purpose
for the land and will someday undoubtedly regret it when we are lacking the
very food and fiber to sustain us.
I hope the Planning Board will take a close look at the this subdivision
and deny this first filing and any future filing, which will be the start
of a subdivision that really doesn~ belong in these hills. Please ensure
my comments are entered into the record and forwarded to the Board of
County Commissioners.
Sincerely,
Ed Kraft Jr.
7428 Neibauer Road
Billings, MT 59106
Jim and Valorie Kraft
KRAF T1 and KRAF T2
Billings, Montana
(406) 656-0569
Cheryll
From: James and Valorie Kraft [jameskraft~imt.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 31,2003 7:38 PM
To: clund~ci.lau fei.mt.us
Subject: Fwd: Vista Butte Sub, First FiJing
Dear Cheryll,
I sent the emai1 below to Cai Cumin yesterday with some concerns about the Vista Buttes Preliminary
Plat. In addition to those concerns I have a couple of more questions that may be addressed Thursday
night at the Planning Board.
· Will there be covenants on the lots to allow stick buik homes or will mobile homes be allowed?
· Is the Laurel Fire Dept requiring dry hydrants for a water supply for fighting fires? With the
increased population on open rangeland, the decrease in grazing, the risk ofwildland fires
increases and with an unattended park next to my property, the fire risk to my and the
neighbor's property rises.
Thanks,
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:15:55 -0600
To: Cai Cumin
From: J'ames and Vaiorie Kraf~
Subject: Vista Butte Sub, First Filing
July 30, 2O03
Dear Cai,
I understand the Vista Butte Subdivision, First Filing of 5 lots has been submitted to the
Laurel Planning Board for review. I am an adjacent property owner of CS 1569 at the
corner of Neibauer Road and 80th Street West. I would just like to offer a few comments
and concerns:
· My irrigation ditch runs through the property designated as park. I take water out
of the Hi-Line Ditch for irrigating pasture and lawn, and have done so for the past
27 years. I would like to continue to have access through this park for ditch
maintenance, headgate control, etc.
· I am somewhat concerned about dust that will be generated from the traffic on the
new road serving the subdivision since I live so close to the road. It was only 3-4
years ago that we received pavement on 80th Street West, stopping the dust from
the gravel road that we had to put up with for 23 years. I realize this may not be
able to be addressed until the filing of the major plat, but wanted to express a
concern
Otherwise, I am pleased that Mr. Pelican has dedicated a park tight next to my property,
8/1/03
:~?,~ a Page2of2 :
giving me the space separation from my new neighbors.
Sincerely Yours,
James L. Kraf~
Jim and Valorie Krat~
KRAF TI and KRAF T2
Billings, Montana
(406) 656-0569
8/1/03