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MINUTES OF THE
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CITY- COUNTY PLANNING BOARD
LAUREL, MONTANA 59044
March 12, 1981
Meeting called to order by John Hawley Smith, President,
at 7:00 p.m., with the following members present:
John Hawley Smith, President (City Rep.)
Otto J. Preikszas, Exec. Sec. (City Rep.)
Ed LaPrath (County Rep.)
James Seaton (County Rep.)
Bus Roberts (City Rep.)
Gerald Shay, Member at Large
James Straw (County Rep.)
Mary McCormick (City Rep.)
Members absent:
R. M. Williams, Vice Pres. (County Rep.)
Kenneth Christian (County Rep.)
Tom Bradley (City Rep.)
Also present:
John MacMartin, Cumin Assoc., Billings
Cam Calvert, Laurel Outlook
T. Curtis McKenzie, City Engineer
Eddie McDonnel, GEL Properties
Leon W. Howe, Sanderson /Stewart /Gaston Eng., Billings
Paul Gjefle 523 Alder Ave., Laurel
Amalia Gjefle 610 8th Ave., Laurel
Marie LaPrath Rt 2, Box 1560, Laurel
Lloyd Milligan 704 8th Ave., Laurel
Mike Bunge 1018 6th Ave., Laurel
Patricia Bunge " "
Warren Schwennecker 804 8th Ave., Laurel
Gail Brice 709 8th Ave., Laurel
Mike Haskell Park City
Lois Schessler No of Laurel
Paul A. Mogan 1019 E. 8th St., Laurel
Duane D. Guenthner 412 Birch, Laurel
Ed Martian 902 4th Ave., Laurel
Eugene E. Eckhardt 1723 E. Maryland, Laurel
Linda J. Buerkley 1408 E. Maryland, Laurel
Leslie J. Lone 901 E. Maryland, Laurel
Mike Lone
Jerry Fjelstad 1026 Ridge Dr., Laurel
others who did not sign roster
Minutes of previous meeting approved as sent out. Bills
approved for payment: Eng. /Bldg. Dept. Administrative Services
for January, February and March in the amount of $600.00; Cumin
Assoc., Consultant Services $3,000.00.
PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDING CHAPTER 17.52 RESIDENTIAL
MOBILE HOME DISTRICT: The purpose of the proposed revision is to
allow the location of single- family mobile home dwellings to be
placed on lots in a Residential Mobile Home subdivision.
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Plannin Board minutes
March 12, 1981
Area requirements:
Minimum lot area 6,000 sq. ft.
Minimum yard requirements
front 10 ft.
side 5 ft.
side adjacent to
street 10 ft.
rear 10 ft.
Maximum height 30 ft.
Maximum lot coverage 40%
Minimum district size 2.07 acres (1 city block or adjacent
to RMH zone)
In addition, all mobile homes will address the issue of
setup and skirting in one of the following ways:
a. concrete pad with cinder blocks used for supports,
coupled with a coordinated skirting;
b. permanent concrete foundations; or
c. a dug -out style area with cinder blocks for supports
designed to insulate the utilities and lower the
unit to ground level.
The method to be utilized shall be approved by the building
official at the time a building permit is issued allowing a unit
to be moved onto the site.
This is a Planning Board initiated amendment. Present zoning
allows trailer in mobile home parks only. Discussion. Lots would
be owned rather than rented. Will still have to be in a mobile
home zone. More discussion.
Motion to defer action until a later time from Otto J. Preikszas.
Motion withdrawn. New motion to recommend approval of the amend-
ment from Otto J. Preikszas, second by Mary McCormick. Carried
with opposition from Ed LaPrath.
PB #81 -2 GEL PROPERTIES: Public hearing on a zone change and
annexation requested on S2SE4SE4NE4 (Except C/S 155) in Sec. 8,
Twp 2S, R24E, MPM, in Yellowstone County, Montana, from RE- 20,000
zone to allow RMF zone. The owner proposes to build elderly
housing apartments and community rooms. The property is located
west of 8th Avenue between 7th and 8th Streets, Laurel, Montana.
Eddie McDonnel representing GEL properties explained his design
plan. These will be subsidized rentals. Slides shown of similar
construction project in Joliet. Zone change is being requested.
Survey conducted by his firm shows over 40 applicants at the
present time substantiating the need. This project to be designed
specifically for the elderly. What is the street width? 40'
access. Are there any facilities similar to these in Laurel at
the present time? Yes, Laurel Gardens.
John MacMartin recommends that the requested zone change
be approved. In regards to the annexation, this matter should
be addressed at a later date when the plat of the property is
submitted. The Planning Board and the developer should note
that on -site and off -site drainage is a critical problem in the
area and will have to be addressed at the time of annexation and
platting.
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Response to 12 test questions for a zone change:
1. This area is within the planning boundaries covered by the
Laurel Comprehensive Plan and is designed in accordance with
the Comprehensive Plan, as it is within the goal of the plan
to insure an adequate supply of housing that satisfies the
needs and desires of all income groups.
2. Present land is vacant; yes, traffic will increase some.
3. NA
4. Will promote health and welfare by extending water and sewer.
5. NA
6. Will prevent overcrowding of land via the Comprehensive Plan.
7. Will avoid undue concentration of population as per zoning
ordinance.
8. Privately owned improvements will be constructed.
9. Character of land presently is vacant surrounded by homes
and vacant land.
10. Suitability of the property for this particular use is provided
in the Comprehensive Plan and zoning ordinance.
11. Land is vacant.
12. New zoning will encourage the most appropriate use of land.
DUANE GUENTHNER lives in east end of Laurel and says that
in his opinion there are adequate housing units available in Laurel
already for people to rent. He protests because he does not think
there is a need for the project. Taxpayers will be paying for
this project ultimately.
WARREN SCHWENNECKER, 804 8th Ave., is concerned about proper
drainage of the land.
ED MARTIAN, 902 4th Ave., stated this is only the first stage
of the developer getting what he wants.
PAUL GJEFLE stated the drainage problem needs to be addressed.
Objects to unrented units already in Laurel. Zone changes lead
to what developers want.
DUANE GUENTHNER says rents are not high in Laurel. New units
rent for $250 month with gas paid. Facilities are here already.
JIM PHILLIPS stated there is a severe water problem that
needs proper drainage. Taking care of the drainage will help
him.
McDonnel rebuttal: The survey shows the need. FmHA require-
ments are strict. Drainage will be addressed at platting.
PAUL GJEFLE asked about the survey for need. It was taken
about a month ago.
DUANE GUENTHNER asked regarding subsidizing the present home-
owners or renters. Complained about displacing present renters.
McDonnel rebuttal: Rental is $240 month single unit and
$294 for 2- bedroom units. Subsidy is approved by FmHA.
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March 12, 1981
Motion from Otto J. Preikszas to delay this recommendation
until the end of the meeting, seconded by Mary McCormick. Discus-
sion. Carried with Gerald Shay opposing.
PB #81 -1 MOGAN SUBDIVISION: Public hearing on a zone change re-
quested on Blocks 1 and 2, Mogan Subdivision, from RLMF zone to
allow Residential Mobile Home zone. The property is located
between 8th Street and Maryland Lane between Cottonwood and Date
Avenues, Laurel, Montana. Petitioner present but being repre-
sented by Leon Howe of Sanderson /Stewart /Gaston Engineering.
Mr. Howe presented a written response to the 12 test questions:
1. Mogan Subdivision is within the planning boundaries covered
by the Laurel Comprehsive Plan. The requested zoning is
designed in accordance with the Comprehensive Plan for resi-
dential land use. Encourages maximum variety in types and
prices of housing and will meet the specific needs of many
residents who cannot afford conventional houses.
2. The present zoning would generate approximately 490 vehicle
trips. The proposed zoning would generate approximately 185
vehicle trips.
3. The subdivision is served by city water and sanitary sewer
service in compliance with State Department of Health re-
quirements.
4. The subdivision will be served by city fire and police depart-
ments.
5. The density and structure height will be lower for proposed
zoning.
6. The density allowed is 15.73 dwelling units per acre and
will change to 6.69 units per acre.
7. Density will be much lower. Present zoning allows approxi-
mately 240 persons population; the new zoning would allow
approximately 102 persons population calculated at 3 persons
per dwelling unit.
8. Water, sewer, and street improvements have been extended.
The lower density and population will lessen the impacts on
the water and sewer systems, streets, schools, fire and police
departments, parks and other public requirements.
9. New zoning is in line with the residential character of the
district. Existing trailer park, park, abandoned farm house
on undeveloped land and an existing single family residential
home occupies surrounding area.
10. The land has a particularly high ground water table, making
it unsuitable for daylight basements or satisfactory founda-
tions for conventional housing.
11. Proposed zoning will allow the sale of mobile home lots, and
will create a much more pleasing environment than rental units.
12. Proposed zoning is designed to meet the needs of the Compre-
hensive Plan in offering an adequate supply of housing that
satisfies the needs and desires of all income groups.
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Planning Board minutes
March 12, 1981
Windsor Imperial Subdivision in Billings was sited as an
example.
Staff recommends approval of this zone change request.
Mobile home parks are required to be landscaped. A mobile
home subdivision will be different. This was questioned by
JERRY FJELSTAD of 1026 Ridge Drive, Laurel.
LINDA BUERKLEY, 1408 E. Maryland, objects to another mobile
home zone.
LESLIE LONE lives across from the site and objects to mobile
home zone and excessive traffic.
MRS. KRAFT, next door neighbor, objects saying it will de-
preciate the land values.
DUANE GUENTHNER stated planning is important when you want
to do something, so that good judgement is passed. Discussion.
Question of adjacent ownership and buildup.
ED LaPRATH asked about congestion in the streets. Present
zoning would allow 80 multi - family housing units. Proposed zoning
would allow a'maximum of 34 mobile home lots. The streets are
only half dedicated at the present time. Date Avenue is in
question. Will sidewalks be required? Yes, the same as for any
single family dwelling being stick built.
JERRY FJELSTAD against temporary houses on permanent founda-
tions.
Leon Howe stated there are advantages to having lots for
purchase rather than rental area. Upkeep should be better.
Mobile home housing needs are being addressed. More economical
and less traffic. Building permits would be required for any
improvements being made.
LINDA BUERKLEY says mobile homes depreciate year by year.
Also depreciates her land value. Would prefer the 4 -plex zone.
Motion to recommend approval from Mary McCormick, seconded
by Otto J. Preikszas.
Question regarding mixed uses with single family dwellings.
Existing homes will be non - conforming uses.
Motion carried with Jim Seaton and Ed LaPrath opposing.
MIKE BUNGE, 1018 6th Avenue, requests the Board's approval of a
home occupation for a beauty shop in their basement. Neighbors
have been contacted and they have voiced no objections whatsoever.
This is located across from the new Morman Church. Would probably
be a 2 -chair operation. Discussion. John MacMartin read the
qualifications for a home occupation from LMC Chapter 17. John
does not recommend approval. Mr. Bunge sites severe economics,
gas expense, etc., as part of his reason for this request. No
changes would be made to the outside of the property. Mrs. Bunge
has an operator's license and has to have one year with someone
else in order to get her manager's license. Discussion.
Motion from Otto J. Preikszas to allow this home occupation,
second by Jim Straw. Carried.
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Motion from Otto J. Preikszas to recommend approval of the
GEL Properties zone change request -- no second. Jim Straw moved
to recommend denial of the zone change request, seconded by Jim
Seaton. Carried.
SIGN ORDINANCE: Needs to be discussed with various organizations
at dinners, etc. April 13th there will be a noon meeting at the
Owl Cafe which John MacMartin will attend to present this proposed
ordinance.
More discussion of Mobile Home subdivision rules. Jim Seaton
suggests allowing single family dwellings to be built in Mobile
Home subdivisions if the _owner wants to. R6000 (duplex zone) allows
single family dwellings as does RMF (multi- family zone) and RLMF
(4 -plex zone). Perhaps the City Council will consider making
this change in the proposed recommendation to amend the RMH zoning.
Meeting adjourned at 9:05 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Otto ) ,Cert-a 4: 1 6 , r x
Preiksza
Executive Secretary
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City of Laurel
LAUREL, MONTANA 59044 COUN
PHONE 628.8791 March 16 , 1981. D EPARTMENT CIL ,
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
GEL Properties having petitioned for a zone designation of
RMF on the following described premises
SiSE4SE4NEk (Except C/S 155) in Sec. 8, Twp 2S,
R24E, MPM, in Yellowstone County, Montana,
located west of 8th Avenue between 7th and 8th
Streets, Laurel, Montana.
At a meeting of the Laurel- Yellowstone City- County Planning
Board held on March 12, 1981, after public notice and a public
hearing having been held, the Board recommends to the Laurel
City Council that the petition for a zone designation of RMF
in the above matter be denied.
OFFICIAL NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Laurel City Council,
or the City Clerk, shall receive protests or objections, if' any,
in writing or in person, up to and including the next regular
Council meeting after the expiration of fifteen days from the
first publication of' this notice, said date being the 21st day
of April, 1981.
Donald L. Hackmann, City Clerk
pub 2t: 4/1/81 & 4/8/81
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City of Laurel
LAUREL, MONTANA 59044 COUNCIL
P.O. BOX 10 March 16, 1981
DEPARTMENT
PHONE: 628
NOTICE OF PUBL1C HEARING
Paul A. Mogan having petitioned for a zone designation
of Residential Mobile Homes on the following described premises:
Blocks 1 and 2, Mogan Subdivision, located
between 8th Street and Maryland Lane between
Cottonwood and Date Avenues, Laurel, Montana.
At a meeting of the Laurel-Yellowstene City-County Planning
Board held on March 12, 1981, after public notice and a public
hearing having been held, the Board recommends to the Laurel
City Council that the petition for a zone designation of Resi-
dential Mobile Homes in the above matter be granted.
OFFICIAL NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Laurel City Council,
or the City Clerk, shall receive protests or objections, if any,
in writing or in person, up to and including the next regular
Council meeting after the expiration of fifteen days from the
first publication of this notice, said date being the 21st day
of April, 1981.
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Donald C. HackmaFin, City Clerk
pub 2t: 4/1/81 & 4/8/81
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March 12, 1981
PB #81 -1 MOGAN SUBDIVISION: Public hearieg or► a zone change re-
quested on Blocks 1 and 2, Mogan :lubdivi ion, from RI.MF zone to
allow Residential Mobile home zone. The property is located -
between 8th Street and Maryland Lane between Cottonwood and Date
Avenues, Laurel, Montana. Petitioner present but being repre-
sented by Leon Howe of Sanderson /Stewart /Gaston Engineering.
Mr. Bowe presented a written response to the 12 test questions:
1. Mogan Subdivision is within the planning boundaries covered
by the Laurel Comprehsive Plan. The requested zoning is
designed in accordance with the Comprehensive Plan for resi-
dential land use. Encourages maximum variety in types and t
Prices of housing and will moot the specific needs of many
residents who cannot afford conventional houses.
2. The present zoning would generate approximately 490 vehicle
trips. The proposed coning would generate approximately 185
vehicle trips.
3. The subdivision is served by city water and sanitary sewev
service in compliance with States Department of Health re-
quirements.
4. The subdivision will be served by city fire and police depart-
ments.
5. The density and structure height will be lower for proposed
zoning.
6. The density allowed is 15.73 dwelling units per acre and
will change to 6.69 units per acre.
7. Density will be much lower. Present zoning allows approxi-
mately 240 persons population; the new zoning would allow
approximately 102 persons population calculated at 3 persons
per dwelling unit.
8. Water, sewer, and street improvements have been extended.
The lower density and population will lessen the impacts on
the water and sewer systems, streets, schools, fire and police .
departments, parks and other public requirements.
9. New zoning is in line with the residential character of the
district. Existing trailer park, park, abandoned farm house
on undeveloped land and an existing single family residential
home occupies surrounding area.
10. The land has a particularly high ground water table, making
it unsuitable for daylight basements or satisfactory founda-
tions for conventional housing.
11. Proposed zoning will allow the sale of mobile home lots, and
will create a much more pleasing environment than rental units.
12. Proposed zoning is designed to meet the needs of the Compre-
hensive Plan in offering an adequate supply of housing that
satisfies the needs and desires of all income groups.
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LAUREL, MONTANA 53044 COUNCIL
P.O.BOX10
PHONE: 628 - 8791 March 16, 1981 DEPARTMENT
NOTICE 'OF PUBLIC HiARING
At a meeting of the Laurel - Yellowstone City- County Planning
Board held on March 12, 1981, after public notice and a public
hearing having been held, the Board recommends to the Laurel
City Council that the Laurel Municipal Code Chapter 17.52
Residential Mobile Home District be amended.
OFFICIAL NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Laurel City Council,
or the City Clerk, shall receive protests or objections, if any,.
in writing or in person, up to and including the next regular
Council meeting after the expiration of fifteen days from the
first publication of this notice, said date being the 21st day
of April, 1981.
onaTa L. Hackuiann, Ci y er
pub 2t: 4/1/81 & 4/8/81
MINUTES OF' THE
LAUREL- YELLQWSTC]NE
CITY - COUNTY PLANNING BOARD
LAUREL, MONTANA 58044
March 12, 1981
PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDING CHAPTER 17.52 RESIDENTIAL
MOBILE HOME DISTRICT: The purpose of the proposed revision is to
allow the location of single - family mobile home dwellings to be
placed. on lots in a Residential Mobile Home subdivision.
Area requirements:
Minimum lot area 6,000 sq. ft.
Minimum yard requirements
front 10 ft.
side 5 ft.
side adjacent to
street 10 ft.
rear 10 ft.
Maximum height 30 ft.
Maximum lot coverage 40%
Minimum district size 2.07 acres (10 c ity bloc) or adjacent
In addition, all mobile homes will address the issue of
setup and skirting in one of the following ways:
a. concrete pad with cinder blocks used for supports,
coupled with a coordinated skirting;
b. permanent concrete foundations; or
c. a dug -out style area with cinder blocks for supports
designed to insulate the utilities and lower the
unit to ground level.
The method to be utilized shall he approved by the building
official at the time a building permit is issued allowing a unit
to be moved onto the site.
This is a Planning Board initiated amendment. Present zoning
allows trailer'in mobile home parks only. Discussion. Lots would
be owned rather than rented. Will still have to be in a mobile
home zone. More discussion.
Motion to defer action until a later time fro. from OftohJ.aPreikszas.
Motion withdrawn. Nc.w motion to recommend app r
ment from Otto J. Preikszas, second by Mary McCormick. Carried
with opposition from Ed LaPrath. _.__,_
More discussion of Mobile Home subdivision rules. Jim Seaton
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suggests allowing single family dwellings to
o0be built
Home subdivisions if the owner wa
single family dwellings as does RMF (multi- t'amily zone) and RLMF
(4 - plex zone). Perhaps the City Council will consider making
this change in the proposed recommendation to amend the RMH zoning.
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