HomeMy WebLinkAboutPublic Works Committee Minutes 01.08.2001 MINUTES
PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE
JANUARY 8, 2001 7:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chairman Gay Easton
Gary Temple
Bill Staudinger
Lorraine Craig (7:18 p.m.)
John Oakes
Mark Mace
Ed Steffans
Dan Meats
OTHERS PRESENT:
Larry McCann
Matt Erekson
Paul Thomae
Sandy Thomae
Chuck Dickerson
Jeanette Koch
Bud Johnson 0eft at 7:10 p.m.)
Stewart Kirkpatrick
Larry Tanglen
Unloading at Thomae Lumber
Gay Easton stated that the City Council voted to rescind the ordinance that allowed Thomae
Lumber to have loading zones on Washington and Wyoming Avenues at the January 2, 2001
meeting. The Public Works Committee now needs to develop a solution to resolve the issues
of safety and the condition of the streets.
Paul Thomae stated that the original issue was the condition of the streets, and now the safety
issue has become important to the city. There have been no accidents in the eighteen years
that Thomae Lumber has been unloading on the streets. Paul used the chalkboard to diagram
that there is not enough room to unload inside the lumberyard. They recently tried to cone off
the area while unloading, but several cars drove through the cones. He offered to build an
approach and install a gate on Washington Avenue.
There was a lengthy discussion regarding many issues: unloading inside the lumberyard;
having the loading zone against the curb; having the loading zone from curb to curb in order
to unload both sides of a semi; using the alley for unloading; the need and costs required to
build the streets with the proper base; Paul's willingness to maintain the streets if they damage
them once they are properly built; damage to the streets that has been caused by water and
weather; indemnification; adding the City of Laurel as an additional insured under Thomae
Lumber's liability insurance; closing the streets using cones or barricades while unloading.
Stewart Kirkpatrick, the attorney for Thomae Lumber, stated that a solution needed to be
worked out so that Thomae Lumber could salvage and continue the business. He stated that a
contract could easily be worked out regarding the responsibilities and duties of each party
involved.
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Mark Mace stated that the forklift causes damage and that the city's streets are not in good
shape. He suggested that a decision should be made on how to keep Thomae Lumber in
business and allow him to use the street. Mr. Thomae suggested that he could install an
approach on Washington in order to stay off Main Street, which Mark felt was a viable
solution. If traffic could be stopped long enough to unload, Mark suggested that the
committee should consider this option. Any further damage to the streets could be addressed
through the Public Works Director.
Paul Thomae stated that he would unload on his property if at all possible in order to avoid
the stress and conflict involved in the situation.
Mr. Kirkpatrick agreed that forklifts and cars do not mix. He suggested that no traffic should
be allowed on the streets during unloading. He stated that Paul has agreed to indemnify the
city in the event of an accident or claim. The City of Billings approves adding the city as an
additional insured on insurance policies, which is a standard practice according to Mr.
Kirkpatrick.
Gary Temple stated that the council previously agreed to accept a similar insurance policy for
indemnification with the Laurel Volunteer Fire Department to allow alcohol in the fire
department. He stated that it would be discriminatory to change the policy and not allow it in
this circumstance.
Smokey Staudinger suggested the use of horse arm barricades and signage to provide a more
secure way to close off the street during unloading. The attorney agreed that it would be a
viable solution, and asked for the committee's assistance in coming to an agreement with Paul
Thomae.
Gay stated that any agreement should require a yearly review.
Motion by Gary Temple to recommend that the council approve a loading zone for Thomae
Lumber on Washington and Wyoming Avenues, requiring the use of cones, barricades or
signage to be placed from the alley south to Main Street, and to allow Paul Thomae to cut the
curb for an approach and install a gate from Washington to his property and requiring
completion of the work by June 1~t, seconded by Bill Staudinger.
Larry McCann suggested an alternative way to unload inside the lumberyard. Paul stated that
there was not enough room to unload and also store materials inside the yard.
Motion by Gary Temple to amend his motion to require Thomae Lumber to add the City of
Laurel as an additional insured on their liability insurance and to require an annual review of
the loading zone agreement, seconded by Bill Staudinger. A vote was taken on the
amendment to the original motion. Motion carried.
City Attorney Matt Erekson stated that he would need to review the insurance policy and to
research the necessary signage. Larry McCann stated that an ordinance cannot be written for
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particular individuals or businesses. An ordinance applies to everyone within the City of
Laurel. Situations such as this should be included in the rules and regulations that are being
proposed.
Matt Erekson stated that the City of Laurel's liability insurance is for $1.5 million per incident
policy. Thomae's policy would be a total $2 million per year policy. The coverage would be
dependent upon the actual verbage for whatever insurance policy Thomae would obtain.
When Matt contacted the city's insurance carrier, he indicated that our premiums should not
be affected if we can get the proper insurance from Thomae. MMIA would become the
second insurer in this circumstance.
Stewart Kirkpatrick and Matt Erekson agreed to work together to provide the insurance policy
and to draft an agreement for review.
A vote was taken on the motion as amended. Motion carried 7-1, with John Oakes voting
nay.
Budget billing for water and sewer
Chuck Dickerson requested that the committee consider implementing budget billing for
water and sewer billing. Since the new water rates have been in effect for two years, he
suggested that an average could be determined. He stated that fixed income residents would
benefit from budget billing.
Motion by Gary Temple to recommend asking Clerk-Treasurer Mary Embleton to explore the
option of budget billing and to make a recommendation to the city council, seconded by Bill
Staudinger. Motion carried.
Jeanette Koch, the Water Clerk, stated that the city's losses would increase greatly if budget
billing were implemented. She explained that a resident would be paying less that what
would be owed during part of the year. If someone moved out of town without paying their
bill during that time, the loss would be great. Budget billing would not be an advantage to the
City of Laurel. Jeanette stated that she has rarely had a customer ask regarding budget billing.
Collection of annual service fee for all water users
The Montana Department of Environmental Quality assesses an annual $2.00 fee for all water
users. The city may lawfully pass on the said fees to its water customers without public
notice or public meeting. Jeanette requested a recommendation for the council to approve a
resolution to collect this fee.
Motion by Gary Temple to recommend approval of the annual $2.00 fee for all water users,
seconded by Mark Mace. Motion carded.
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Time for Public Works Committee meetings
The committee discussed the time for the meetings.
Motion by Gary Temple to change the time for the Public Works Committee meetings to 5:00
p.m., seconded by Mark Mace. Motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Cindy Allen
Council Secretary
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