HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity/County Planning Board Minutes 12.09.1993 MINUTES
CITY-COUNTY PLANNING BOARD
DECEMBER 9, 1993 7:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS PRESENT:
John Hawley Smith, Chairman
Gerald Shay, Member at Large
Donald Gudgell, County Rep.
Clarence Poos, County Rep.
Billielou Lance, County Rep.
Jim Ziegler, County Rep.
Lonnie Kellogg, City Rep.
Donna Kilpatrick, City Rep.
Joe Bradley, City Rep.
Larry Thomas, City Rep.
OTHERS PRESENT:
Cal Cumin, City Planner
Cheryll Lund, City Secretary
Evelyn Steinhart, 315 Woodland
Geraldine Rooley, 215 Woodland
Arthur Fleming, 211 Woodland
Jim & Linda Flisrand, 610 8th Avenue '
Burr & Katherine Kucera, 806 2nd Avenue
Elna Hallen, 110 E. Maryland Lane
Doreen Armstrong, 611 W. First
Margaret Penne, 1012 2nd Avenue
Charles & Darlene Fischer, 1508 W. Maryland
Mary Elsenpeter, 813 Wyoming
Sandra Heir, 601 E. 4th
Ron Marshall, 204 Durland
Albert Ehrlick, 401 Cedar
Claude Ingraham, 415 Cedar
Sue Fink, 314 Maple
Richard & Phyllis Turcotte, 207 1/2 S. 4th
Art Armstrong, 1240 Valley Drive
Dolly Allan, 415 3rd Avenue
Bunny King, 714 2nd Avenue
Audrey Kemkes, 1630 W. 9th
Sandra Heir, 601 E. 4th
Robin & Bianca Hoffman, 2406 Topeka
Home Occupation- Lydia Barbee
Lydia Barbee's home occupation was tabled from November because she
was on the agenda but did not come to the meeting. She was
informed of the meeting this month but did not come again.
Home Occupation- Sandra Heir
Sandra Heir, 601 E. 4th Street, has applied for a home occupation
to allow her to do computer generated astrology reports from her
home. All business will be done by mail. No customers will come
to her home.
Motion by Gerald Shay, seconded by Don Gudgell, to recommend
approval to the City Council of the home occupation for Sandra
Heir. Motion carried.
Home OccuDation- Robin & Bianca Hoffman
Robin and Bianca Hoffman have applied for a home occupation to
allow them to bake and sell special occasion cakes. There will be
some traffic to the home. They feel that there is sufficient room
on their street for what little traffic their customers will
generate.
Question on whether or not they need a County health department
inspection and license.
Motion by Gerald Shay, seconded by Billielou Lance, to
recommend approval of the home occupation contingent on the
Hoffman's contacting the County Health Department and getting the
necessary inspections and licensing. Motion carried.
ISTEA APPLICATION REVIEW.
Cal asked that this be tabled until we get the official word from
the County Commissioners that they have given approval on the
Canyon Creek Battleground application and how much funding they
have approved for it.
COMMI/NITY HOPE- SPECIAL REVIEW
Cal explained to the audience present that the public hearing on
this application was held in November, so this is not a public
hearing. We have listened tO every possible complaint on having
Community Hope in that area, and we have listened to the people
that support the application. Cal goes on to explain that if
anyone feels they have anything to add besides what the Board has
already heard that the Board has the discretion of deciding whether
or not they can speak.
He also pointed out that this is a use that is allowed in a
residential area. Our decision here tonight is not whether to
disapprove or approve this but to look at it in the context of what
is needed to the benefit of Laurel to allow this proposal on Cedar
Avenue.
Question on the funding for this project.
Cal states that the funding for this project is contingent to the
graces of whoever they apply to. The funding is not the Boards
problem. The Board needs to look at the plans for the project.
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Don Gudgell questioned whether the building would be required to
have sprinkler systems.
Joe Bradley states that the Building Department will have to decide
that. We are concerned about special requirements such as whether
or not we want to require a 6 foot high fence around the entire
building.
A lady (didn't identify herself) questions the water run off in
that area. When the rains come the water in the area is a problem.
The water runs into the area where the building will be placed.
Cal states that this will be a factor taken in before they can
build.
Mary Elsenpeter presented letters from the neighbors that live in
the area where Community Hope is.
She also stated that they gave out 384 food boxes to Laurel
residents and out of that 57 boxes were given to people that live
on the southside of Laurel.
Billielou Lance states that she received several calls of protest.
Other Board members also stated they had received phone, calls in
protest.
Cal feels that fencing, outside lighting, garbage pick-up,
need of plans is what we need to address. Also the drop
clothes and food needs to be addressed.
and the
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The access to the site is also another issue we need to address.
Cedar street is designed for a large capacity, so the amount of
traffic should not be a problem for the street.
Gerald Shay stated that the whole objection by people he talked to
is the concept of putting Community Hope in the residential area,
period.
Joe states that the City Council has already decided that this type
of a charitable organization can go into this zone. What this
Board is being asked to do is put conditions on this application
that Community Hope has proposed.
Larry Thomas suggested that Community Hope sell the land and then
use the money to locate on other land. He feels that if there is
this much opposition to the proposed site then they should expect
to lose some of the support of these people.
Donna Kilpatrick asked if there was any support for the locating of
Community Hope into the area in question?
Cal states that there are some letters from people that live in the
area of Community Hope now that have stated that they have never
had problems.
Joe states that what the Board has to understand is that this issue
is not based on a public vote. The Board has to make a tough
decision. This type of building is allowed in this zone.
Joe feels that we need a detailed site plan before we can make any
decision.
Jim Flisrand shows a plan that he states is in rough form. The
plan calls for a drive through garage, a 6 foot fence, & access in
and out of the site.
The entire backyard is fenced with 6 foot cedar. The large
furniture can be brought to the drive through garage and dropped
off.
They also have plans to landscape the entire area around Community
Hope.
Question on the transients using the rest rooms in Community Hope.
Community Hope will have a rest room facility but it will not be a
public restroom and only the workers will have access to it.
Larry Thomas feels that Community Hope should build outside
restrooms for the transients. It was stated that Community Hope
has no plans to do so. He would like to see an outside bathroom
put as part of the conditions of the proposed site.
Joe stated that he would like the site plans to be a little more
fine tuned. He feels that the proposed area is alot like the area
they are in now. He also states that you aren't going to find any
area in Laurel that you can place Community Hope in that isn't at
least 1 block away from houses. He feels that you will never find
a neighborhood that is going to want Community Hope located by
them.
Motion by Joe Bradley, seconded by Dorina Kilpatrick, that we
recommend approval to the City Council of the site plan, in
general, that was presented; and, that the City Council hold its
own Public Hearing. Motion carried with a vote of 7 "YES" votes,
2 "NO" votes, and 1 abstained (Billielou Lance).
Motion by Billielou Lance, seconded by Donald Gudgell, to
approve the minutes, as corrected. Motion carried.
Motion by Donna Kilpatrick, seconded by Jim Ziegler, to
approve the paying of the Administrative Services bill for $400
(November and December) and the bill from Cumin Associates. Motion
carried.
The January meeting of the Planning Board will be held at 6:00
p.m., January 13, 1994.
Motion to adjourn made by Jim Ziegler, seconded by Donna
Kilpatrick. Motion carried.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:02 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Cheryll Lund, Secretary