HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity/County Planning Board Minutes 06.01.1995 MINUTES
CITY-COUNTY PLANNING BOARD
June 1, 1995 7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers
Members present:
Others present:
John Hawley Smith, Chairman
Billielou Lance, County Rep.
Gerald Shay, Member at Large
Jim Ziegler, County Rep.
Larry Thomas, City Rep.
Merrill Watkins, County Rep.
Clarence Foos, County Rep.
Lonnie Kellogg, City Rep.
Brian Cook, 1018 9th Avenue
Doug & Lila Carpenter, 1303 Deerhorn Dr.
Kenneth Hanify, 1313 Deerhorn Dr.
Byron Guenthner, 1227 Deerhorn Dr.
Howard Beeter, 1933 Howard Ave., Billings
Henry Meyers, 3011 Kincaid Rd., Billings
Roger Beeter, 1939 Iris Lane, Billings
Cal Cumin, City Planner
Motion by Billielou Lance, seconded by Gerald Shay, to approve
the minutes of the May 11, 1995 meeting. Motion carried.
Motion by Billielou Lance, seconded by Gerald Shay, to approve
the administrative services bill for June for $200. Motion
carried.
LITTLE DUDE RANCHETTES- ZONE CHANGE- PRELIMINARY PLAT
Harlan Lund explained that his intention is to put a RE 20,000 zone
on this acreage so they can put single family residences on. Right
now half of it is RE 20,000 and half is light industrial. Light
industrial zoning does not allow residential buildings.
Lila Carpenter of 1303 Deerhorn spoke regarding the applications.
She stated that the only concern she has is the water issue, will
they have enough water once more residential homes are allowed in
the area?
Cal stated that this will come out in the preliminary plat hearing.
Motion by Billielou Lance, seconded by Gerald Shay, to close
the public hearing. Motion carried.
The second public hearing, for the preliminary plat, was opened.
Harland Lund spoke again explaining that the intent is to have 5
acre tracts with one single family residence per tract.
The subdivision restrictions will be drawn up later. But, they are
planning to require houses be built no less than 1500 square feet
each.
The area is just east of Montana Meadows subdivision off of Seitz
Ronan Road.
Lila Carpenter of 1303 Deerhorn Drive spoke.
much this will effect their water systems.
how many animals will be allowed.
She is wondering how
She is also wondering
Gentlemen (didn't
covenants will be?
the buildings.
identify himself) is questioning what the
He is concerned about animals and the size of
Jim Ziegler questioned the covenants being addressed?
Cal stated that this are actually a civil matter between neighbors,
but they are useful in our review because of the way they could
impact the subdivision.
Motion by Gerald Shay, seconded by Billielou Lance, to close
the public hearing. Motion carried.
Motion by Billielou Lance, seconded by Gerald Shay, to
recommend approval of the preliminary plat of Little Dude
Ranchettes, to the Laurel City Council. Motion carried.
Zone change discussion:
Harlan Lund spoke on the water situation in that area. He stated
that he would see no problem with having additional water and
septic systems placed in that area. But, he is not an authority on
the subject and he did not come prepared to answer these types of
questions.
Cal reminded everyone that the County Commissioners have the final
say on this plat.
He also stated that it will also be reviewed by the state
department of health and environmental science as far as health
issues. It will have to meet the state standards. They can
approve or deny the subdivision.
Cal also stated that he would make a recommendation that this plat
be approved subject to working out the subdivisions agreement with
the public works director, city attorney, and the owners of the
property, in regards to water and sanitary sewer, and other issues.
Harlan Lund stated that the property did pass the preliminary perk
test.
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Question on whether or not the wells have been affected by the
amount of building going on within Montana Meadows subdivision?
A gentlemen (didn't identify himself) stated that he hasn't noticed
any change in his home water, but he did notice it when he is using
his irrigation system.
A different gentleman (didn't identify himself) stated that he has
heard that the water systems are being affected by the new
residences going up. He did state that he had heard that they
would be the first ones to get water should the water level start
to go down. He is wondering whether or not rules like that exist?
Cal states that may be something that exists within the homeowners
association.
Another question on the water rights. Who gets water first?
Cal states that he cannot speak for the state natural resources
department.
Question on whether or not a test well, through the State, has to
be done?
Harlan states that sometimes, if a problem seems to exist, then the
state will have them do a test well and monitor it for a certain
amount of time. But this is not standard practice in every
situation.
Question on the 50 foot roadway. Clarence Foos thought that 60
foot is standard.
Harlan states that 60 feet wide is standard, but they have met with
the surveyor's office and discussed 50 feet. The county agreed that
50 feet would be adequate. Recently he did see where the
surveyor's office is now asking for 60 feet, so he anticipates more
discussion on this issue.
Cal went over some problems he knows needs to be addressed on this
subdivision.
They need a comment on the affect of the septic tank and drain
field on the area on the north side.
Need a comment on the plat of the accumulative affect this
subdivision has on the ground water, quantity and quality.
Restrictive covenants need to be prepared before the plat is
finalized by the City. They need to be reviewed.
Question on the area to the south. Mr. Lund states that it is not
a piece of land that could be developed. He plans to dedicate it
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to the City or County.
Question on this piece of land being dedicated to the City. The
City or County will have to maintain it. And, sometimes that is
not possible.
Mr. Lund states that it could also be given to the homeowner's for
them to maintain.
Question on park dedication? Cal states that it is too large of a
subdivision that there is no need.
Cal states that this issue needs to be addressed before it is
finalized.
The property in question is less than one acre.
Question on whether or not Montana Meadows has a homeowner's
association?
It is stated that they only meet when they need to. The person
speaking did say that if the association meets he would bring up
the subject of what could be done with the less than one acre
tract.
Cal stated that he felt something could be worked out with the
subdivider's. It is an issue that need's to be addressed.
The time frame of the developer is to have everything done by fall.
Cal recommended that the decision on this be delayed until after
our July 13, 1995 meeting.
Motion by Lon~ie Kellogg, seconded by Larry Thomas, to delay
the decision on this plat and zone change to July 13, 1995. Motion
carried.
Cal states that the groundwater issue needs to be addressed, along
with the covenants agreements before the Planning Board can make a
decision.
HOME OCCUPATION- BRIAN COOK
Brian has applied for a home occupation at 1018 9th Avenue, for a
computer verification and monitoring service.
He will start with just the monitoring service. He does not
anticipate any customer's coming to the home. The only equipment
being used is the computer and phone line.
A monitoring service provides physical monitoring for people that
are of ill health, or that need a "reminder" service. The service
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will call the person, by computer, and inquire as to whether or not
they are all right. If they are ill or do not answer the call, the
service will provide any medical service needed.
Motion by Billielou Lance, seconded by Gerald Shay, to
recommend approval of Brian Cook's home occupation for a computer
monitoring service. Motion carried.
SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENT- ENTERTAINMENT SUBDIVISION
Cal read some of the subdivision improvement agreements that he
felt were necessary to put into the agreement for Entertainment
Subdivision.
The first one had to do with the grading of the south barrow ditch.
We changed the agreement to state that it would be done before the
final plat was approged.
The second item was the responsibility of each lot owner for their
own access.
The sanitary sewer, storm sewer and water and sewer lines will have
to conform to the existing regulations at the time they are
developed. When they come in for their building permit they will
have to show plans for water and sewer hook-ups.
The irrigation ditches must remain intact each lot owner is
responsible to maintain its flow.
Any change of land use from the existing agricultural use, to
include using of land for storage or other similar use, will
trigger the compliance of the required improvements, as deemed by
the City.
Question on the traffic flow when these lots are sold off one by
one. Cal states that if it builds up out there like he thinks we
will have to deal with traffic eventually. The City can make the
improvements of curb & gutter and tax the property owners.
Lonnie Kellogg thinks that the City will never be able to come up
with the up-front money to do the improvements.
Cal states that they will have to conform to all of what the City
wants them to do. This could include curb and gutter.
The meeting adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Cheryll Lund, Secretary