HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Minutes 07.06.1982 Minutes of the City Council of Laurel
July 6, 1982
A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Laurel, Montana,
was held in the Council Chambers and called to order by Mayor Albert Ehrlick
at 7:05 p.m., on July 6,
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT:
1982.
Marvin Carter
Duane Behm
Donald Meyers
couNCIL MEMBERS ABSENT: Lonnie Kellogg
Bill Brennan
Susan Carter
Rob Harris
Bob Gauthier
MINUTES: Motion by Alderman Behm to approve the minutes of the regular
meeting of June 15, 1982, and the ~special meeting of June 30, 1982, as
presented, seconded by Alderman Harris. Carried.
PUBLIC HEARING ~ PROPOSED GARBAGE RATES: This being the time and place
advertised a public hearing was held.
Marvin Carter, Chairman of the Garbage Committee, introduced other
members of the committee present here tonight,~ Ed Steffans and Jim Redman.
Mr. Carter reviewed the rules and procedures for the hearing.
La.rry Peterson I came to work for the City on the 15th of May, and by that
time there had been considerable work done on preparing an analysis of the
garbage and landfill operations. One of the main inputs I had to the committee
when I came was to do a five-year study of revenues vs expenditures for
Operating the landfill. Operating the landfill having the City do it and
operating the landfill and g~rbage collections if a private hauler would
take over the operations. We even had a similar proposal under consideration
which was used in the analysis that I gave, City's costs vs Private hauler's
costs. After taking a look at these costs I made certain recommendations to
the committee, those being that the City stay in the garbage collection and
landfill operation based on a five-year study that I did, which was published
in part in the Laurel Outlook.
Ed Steffans The garbage has been running in the red and we're trying to get
a little bit more money to buy some needed equipment that the committee feels
is necessary at the landfill and also perhaps another pickup unit that satisfies
the needs of the City. Apparently they have quite a bit of breakdown on the
unit that is about three years old. If they could get something that wouldn't
be so breakdown prone, you would eventually cut down on expenses.
Marvin Carter distributed copies and explained the proposed garbage rate
structure.
We have done studies with private haulers asking them their cost and fee.
On that basis the private haulers we talked to said $2.00 a yard. One private
hauler said that he would charge every business, small businesses $20.00 a
month or $240.00 a year base charge. If you were using more than the base,
then you would be charged $2.00 a yard.
A big can will put out 1.5 yards of garbage. So, therefore, when we
look at that can, that can's potential on the 6th day of operation that we're
operating on has a potential of gaining us $936.00 a year~ We're not charging
anyone $936.00 a year for that can. In fact we based it down on that. We
basically tried to.base the volume somewhere around a $1.00--$1.25 a yard.
There may be some adjustments we'll have to make as we go on.
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Kathteen Phillips I ownLucinda's, a small one operator shop; and I have
about one BO-gallon garbage can a week, and about every week and a half a
12xlSx12 box and you're increasing mine from $60.00 to $84.00. I don't
think it's quite fair. I also have a house that has set there all year
empty, and I have paid garbage for that and it will be there another year
and I am paying garbage and I am asking you to not charge me for it. Most
of my garbage is hair, light-weight paper. I can carry the garbage can
myself at the end of the week.
Theresa Brohaugh - Chuck's Repair We have really very little garbage to put
in it, because it,s an iron shop and we burn all of our papers and wood.
The only ones I have seen use it is the church. Whenever I go out there to
look into the nan or anything, even once a week, that can isn't half full
and I can't see why we should have an increase on this. I suppose we just
pay for other people to use it.
Bob Lowell - Lowell's Barber Shop There is one BOO-gallon can out there for
ei'ght of us business people.. There is my barber shop, a house on the same
lot, Log Cabin Beauty Shop and that rental there, Sonstegaard, Dr. McLane,
a dentist, Yellowstone Bank uses it, and a house in the middle of the block.
I have one little bucket every week - hair. I use no paper towels. So I
think for eight that's a little overboard.
Paul Gjefle On the Kwik Way, how do you come up with the figure of six
barrels a week?
Marvin Carter It!s six times a week but you're only on the volume. I think
it's a 1D, $504.00.. It comes out 6.0 on the scale. You're just barely fil-
ling it and if you are only filling the can more than half full we are giving
you credit for it because we're only charging you 6.0.
Paui Gjefle What do you mean 6.0?
Marvin Carter Let's say a little bit over half full.
Paul Gjefle 6 times a week?
Marvin Carter Yes.
Paul Gjefle That sounds about right. I didn't understand it. I thought it
meant 6 full barrels and I just don't have that much.
Marvin Carter You have one can and you're filling it a little bit over half
full, basically what we assume 6 days a week, and it comes out to $504.00.
Paul Gjefle OK. That's fine.
The Marshal Apartments which I own, I don't really get the cost on the
one barrel that sits back there. The Board of Trade Bar, Laurel Shoe Shop,
Window Shoppe, Marshall Apartments, and everything that comes out of the front
end of the telephone office all goes into one barrel. It generates $1,158 a
year to dump that one barrel, plus the Flower Shoppe. That's quite a bit
above the average which you said was $936. That's better than $200 a year
over the average to pick up the one barrel. It seems a little bit strong
for the businesses that are there.
Roy Williams - Russell Motel I am the new owner, my wife and I, and I am not
in any position to debate with you over volume or anything of that sort because
we have not been there long enough to ascertain how much garbage is being
hauled from there. I will submit it has been rather heavy recently, because
we just moved in. But in looking at your notice here of the rate increase,
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we live in a world Of inflation and I fully understand what that means.
But when you talk about 87% increase, it's just a little bit startling.
That's the point I'd like to make and have you consider;
Tony Podolanchuk - A&A Builders I have about the same gripe as Theresa
has. I am in the construction business and we can't put wood or anything
in the garbage barrel, and we still get the same rate. I don't think
that's right either.
It was suggested that the answers to the questions that the protestors
have wait until the end~ after everyone has given their presentation.
Charles Olsen - DeFrance Motel I think you people are completely out of
~ine. I have been paying $180.00 a year. There is two cans back there
and part of them are used by residents. So I think I have one can and you
raisedme up to $336.00 a yeaP. I have a question: If I tell you to take
that can away, are you still going to charge me a garbage fee? If you are
going to hold me up I will haul my own garbage, if you don't charge me a
fee. I can go to the Yellowstone County Dump for $3.00 a load. I'd like
an answer.
Marvin Carter I will answer your question at the end.
Charles Olsen The only way you can do this fair is to go by weight. Your
hokus pokus business here don't show me nothing.
Greg Vanberg - Cottage Frint Shop I wouid like to request a lowering in
my volume rate. I appreciate your problems, etc., but I don't feel we
generate the amount of garbage justified at the $126.00 rate. We share
a can with five other businesses and two residences, and I have yet to
see it full. My suggestion to the committee wouid be to analyze each
route. If that can was dumped twice a.week, I think everyone would have
satisfactory service. It would save the city five hours a week in going
down that tee part of the alley or fi~e houses a year maybe. Turn that
into dollars and it's a substantial savings on that one can.
Glenn Sanders - Cheerio Lounge I am not complaining about the rate I am
being charged, ~f the city needs the money that's fine. But I don't think
it's equitable. I think the bars are being discriminated against for the
price they are being charged. There are people paying a lot less than I am
and they are contributing more garbage to the cans than I do. If they need
the money -- the $378.00 I am paying -- fine. But let's equalize it among
the other businesses.
Mike Sankovich - Thriftway Store I would like to know how many barrels you
are charging Thriftway for.
Marvin Carter 5 barrels.
Mike Sankovich So we are paying
16 units.
Marvin Carter No.
Mike Sankovich Yes.
for the apartment house across from us with
Bank Our rate is proposed to increase from $180.00
this increase on the basis that we feel we are
more. The reason being that most of our trash
Dick DeGroat Yellowstone
to $252.00, an'd' we protest
generating less trash, not
is shredded and saved for the Boy Scouts who pick it up from time to time
and take it to the recycling center. So the amount of trash placed in the
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containers should be less now than in the past.
Bill Lohof What about out of city residents that come down Main Street and
stop at the telephone booth? I don't know if they make a phone call or not,
but I noticed a lot of them put their garbage in that container. I was
wondering if anyone has probed that or checked it out.
Mayor Ehrlick Larry can give you an answer on that. He just wrote me a
letter. They just caught somebody and gave them a warning. I think they
are going to get them eventually.
Bill Lohof Because I know the motel doesn't generate that much garbage. I
check about every day and it's almost full each day.
In regards to the office we rent to Shaklee~ I don't know where their
garbage would come from. They might have a few pieces of paper that they
throw in the waste paper basket, and they are being charged $5.00 a month
for garbage --~that's $60.00 a year. I don't think in a year's time they~
would have a carton full of waste paper. I don't know how they justify
charging them $5.00 a month. As far as the apartmentsi a lot of times in
the wintertime they are empty-- they are not rented. Bulk of the business
has been the tourists that stay one night. They don't generate very much
garbage. So I would like to know how is it based on, the number of pickups
a week, tonnage or what?
Dennis Johnston Big Sky Haul-a-way We prepared the proposal to the City
of private vs City operations. I have got a couple of questions for Mr.
Peterson of his analysis of those studies. Our proposal is $138,000.00
vs the City's budget of $180~000.00. Since we turned in that proposal of
$138,000.00 you've added on $33~000.00 for administration fees. I guess
that is for billing and that sort of thing. New containers for $8,500.00~
one City man -- I guess to exchange those new containers and maintain them
for $17,000.00 a year and alley maintenance for $10,000.00. I would like
to know how much you spent to exchange your containers last year and how
much you spent on alley maintenance. I have a question for Mr. Carter.
When he was comparing private vs City he talked about $2.00 a cubic yard.
What he didn't tell you is that was if the truck would come from Billings
and take care of one location in Laurel, not the whole thing, just one
location. What I am saying is that we made the proposal for $138,000.00
and they adde~ these prices on to make it $193~000 to make the proposal
look bad.
Marvin Carter I will tDy to answer the questions that were directed at the
committee.
Lucindas: Yes, we realize you are a very light user and other businesses
like yours- Farmers Union Insurance, Walter Reiter's Real Estate, etc. But
we had to start someplace. We established that base at that point. The
committee could perhaps try to re-establish a base. Then we would go back
and re-figure everything.. But we had to come up with a base, and we took
~t on what the private haulers are charging the surrounding area, which is
$7.50 a month to pick up on the hill~ Montana Meadows, etc. So we thought
that our $~.00 a month is not out of line to go with residential and then
establish a base for our commercial.
Kathleen Phillips If I stopped using your garbage service, would I be
charged?
Marvin Carter I will get to that when I answer Mr. Olsen's question.
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Chuck's Repair Shop: Iron, shop garbage -~ I realize, Theresa, that you do
perhaps use it less than anyone. So therefore we would have to go back to
the committee and reconsider that one.
Bob Lowell: You're in the same boat that Lucindas are in and this type of
thing.
Paul Gjefle, The Marshall Apartments: We tried to establish, and we have on
record to go, a different rate at $84.00 for the first one, then we drop back
down to the $60.00 usage we had in the past.
Roy Williams and other members of the motels: We wrote letters in January to
all of the motels, asking how many units you rented out. The way the ordinance
reads, we could charge you for an apartment you're renting by the month at the
going rate for an apartment.. We didn't have too much luck at getting any
answers back. We got some back, but nobody signed their name as to whose
motel it was. Instead of going and asking you monthly how many apartments you
rent out, we tried to reach a happy medium there on that container and on the
number of units you might have that you rent out. Again, we might have to
make some adjustments especially in the wintertime. You might have to come in
and say to the Garbage Committee, "You're not being fair to me, I don't have
that many units rented or I am not in that position to be charged that amount
of money." The bigger motels got charged more money.
Mr. Olsen, DeFrance Motel: Yes, you probably could haul it cheaper to Billings
if you wanted to start hauling your own garbage. But remember that if you
litter and things like that on the way, you are subject to a ticket. By
ordinance, we could assess you an alley maintenance to maintain your alley.
Charles Olsen Just me or the other people along with me?
Marvin Carter That goes along with the garbage rate. There is no extra
maintenance fee. If you pulled out of the garbage system, we could say,
"Mr. Olsen, you owe $180.00 or $200.00 a year for alley maintenance."
Charles Olsen Could you do that legally?
Marvin Carter Yes, legally we could.
Charles Olsen Who said so?
Marvin Carter It is set by ordinance.
Charles Olsen You are forcing me to pay for a service that I am not going to
use, if I get out of the garbage business with you people.
Marvin Carter But the alley still has to be maintained, please realize that.
Alley maintenance costs money. From the garbage fund we must pay money to the
street crew when they go through and maintain that alley. If we put a load
of gravel in, it comes from the barbage budget to pay for that load of gravel.
Charles Olsen How much would you charge me for your alley maintenance?
Marvin Carter I don't know for sure what that fee would be.
Charles Olsen You try to charge me $336.00 to haul garbage and what little I
have you can haul in a pickup truck.
Marvin Carter Like I say, Mr. Olsen, we have to take under advisement and
consideration how many units you are renting out. Like I told Roy and Bill
earlier, you do have those units that you rent out by the month, and we could
come in and assess each one of those that fee~--the regular fee every resident
pays.
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What does every resident pay?
Marvin Carter Right now, every resident pays $5.00 and will pay $7.00 after
the new rate is established. You would be paying $7.00 a month per unit that
you rent out. Now you could figure mentally very quickly how many units you
rent a month and how much that would be times seven and see whether or not if
you're being taken.
Charles Olsen I am only renting out two kitchenettes a month. Are you only
going to charge me fifteen bucks'then?
Marvin Carter Plus your own, for the off~ce and a fee for the rest of the
motel.
Charles Olsen The way it is now, you are raising me from $15.00 a month to
haul garbage to $28.00 a month. This is what you call inflation. You are
completely out of line.
Marvin Carter As I say, this was how we tried to establish, instead of having
you report every month. If you're willing to report every month and come
through
Mr. Charles Olsen went on talking about an abandoned car he reported a
few weeks ago which stii1 remains in the same place.
Tony Podolanchuk: Granted, perhaps you don't have much that you can put in
the garbage can, but that fee.you pay does give you access to haul debris to
the dump through A&A Builders. If you chose not to be in the garbage service,
then would haul your own building material up there, they would charge you
accordingly what you are hauling and whether that would be more or less than
you're paying, I don't know.
Ton~ Podolanchuk What I was getting at, I might get two or three square feet
of sheetrock and dump it in there. Some stupid character sees this, he will
think I am dumping Duilding material in there. Two or three pieces of sheet
rock isn't going to hurt the garbage can. But you know what kind of a stink
that would raise.
Albert Ehrlick I really don't think anybody can complain about two or three
pieces of sheetrock.
Greg Vanberg: I realize your plight -- paper products -- and we will take
under advisement what you asked.
GlemSanders: The leunges and bars, I don't think we are discriminating against
them. We tried to establish the volume perhaps you are using. Maybe we are
a little overboard on yours. We felt that Sonny had less volume; therefore,
Sonny was lower. That was one reason we came up with this established garbage
structure, was so that we could fluctuate and regulate that way. Yes, we would
be glad to take a look and watch your can and see what type and how much garbage
that you are generating to see if we are out of line.
Glenn Sanders I am sure I can use one garbage can per week. I don't fill it
up in a week.
Marvin Carter That's possible, and that is something we can take a look at.
Don Meyers The only thing with bars, Mary, any more everything they use is
recyclable and they keep it all -- cans and bottles.
Marvin Carter We will take it to the committee.
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Mike Sankovioh: No, ~you are not paying for the apartments' container. There
are six containers back there. Five behind you store and one up the street,
so there is access to six containers in the area. I think your store, perhaps,
uses all five periodically, four for sure daily and the other one perhaps when
you have an overload, when produce comes in or something like this.
Mike Sankovich The peak period on that ~s Monday and Wednesday when the two
trucks come into Thriftway. ~ Your Tuesday will be the heavy load and Monday
the light load. The Thursday load is heavy and that is actually the only
time you're going to have what you.say is four barrels. More boxes are carried
out of Thriftway than out to the garbage.
I wanted to ask about the alley maintenance. Is that added on to the
garbage?
Marvin Carter It is part of the garbage fee.
Mike Sankovich The City has never maintained that alley. It has been black
topped by Thriftway and kept by Thriftway, MDU or Telephone Co. There is no
work done by the City that I know of and I have been here 23 years.
Bill Lohof I don't have an alley. My can is out front -- State Highway.
Marvin Carter My answer to you~ Bill, is when you see out of town users using
that~ I would appreciate it as a citizen of the community if you wouid get a
license number and report it to the police station so they oan run it down and
see who is dumping garbage in there.
Bill Lohof Especially in ~he fall. You will find deer heads, cats, dogs,
and that is a stinking mess.
Duane Behm Bill, in the past there has been two or three people turned in for
violating this ordinance and they have been proseeuted and fined $25 or $B5.
But we have to have your cooperation with a license number, maybe oolor of the
vehicle, and be willing to sign a complaint.
Bill Lohof It isn't fair to me as a motel operator or to the rest of the City
residents. I have stopped a few of them and they say we are just using the
telephone, and they flat out denied that they dumped anything. Unless you
catch them in the act with a camera they are going to say, "I didn't do it."
It is their word against mine.
Don Meyers If they find anything in the can with a ~ame on it that belongs
to that person ....
Bill Lohof There is no identification, it is just garbage.
Dick DeGroat: We were figuring you for two businesses and they were established
together as one. Yes, you probably have a lot of shredded paper and we will
take this under advisement and see what we oan come up with.
Dick DeGroat I still wanted to make a point that the volume is less because
the Boy Scouts are getting a good share of it.
Otto Preikszas I don't know if the point has been made, but I have some people
in my vicinity. The garbage truck can get back, I think they go out and buy
instant garbage. In the old days when they used to have aluminum containers --
what were they, 30 gallons ~- my wife and I might fill up one of those in a
week, maybe two weeks. So is there anything in your provision here to maybe
assess by the number of members in a family. Recently the water department
included in their thing of all the things that will not be thrown in the
garbage. Three or four months ago I suggested to them that they have little
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slips down there on the counter about things that should not go into the
garbage. I said you shQuld mail one of them out. They said, "Oh, that
would cost too much money." I don't know, maybe it is the new engineer or
somebody solved the problem by including it with the water bill. When it
comes to some of these people saying that you have got to have cooperation
to get the license number, etc., and see what they threw in the garbage can.
I will inform you that I always tag dead cats with my name and serial number
every time I throw one away.
Dennis Johnston: You and Yellowstone Sanitation came in and did make a
tentative bid to the committee of hauling out the garbage. You did not want
anything to do with the containers, collection fees, and things of this nature,
rate structures or.anything and I accused you of picking the easy part, be-
cause it would be a dream to drive the truck down the alley picking up the
containers and that was all you had to do and haul it away to the landfill.
Those other things would cost money. Alley maintenance, if any, would cost
money. It would have to come on top of that $138,DO0 figure that you were
projecting to us at that time. Yellowstone Sanitation did make the state-
ment, and I think you were with him that night, that he would not come down
for one business. I said what is your rate structure and he said $2.00 a
yard, and that is the same thing that Bob Dunker has, is $2.00 a yard.
D & F Sanitation told me that he would not come into this town for less
than $20.00 a month per business. He said that I am in the business to make
a little money and I don't care. If you hire me to do the business they are
going to pay for it. Twenty dollars a month for a small business, which
equals out to $240.00 a year and for people like Mike, Jan's IGA and Safeway
it would be $3,000 to $4,000 to haul their garbage away.
Dennis Johnston But what you are doing is comparing individual accounts to
where if they had to leave Billings and drive down here and pick that one up.
Marvin Carter Two dollars a yard, Dennis, and you guys said that you would
not come for one.
Dennis Johnston Right. But you are not looking at our proposal. How many
yards did you haul last year and divide that into $1B8,000 and see what you
come up with on a cubic yard basis. Does anybody have any idea how many yards
you hauled last year?
Marvin Carter We have not do~e all of the surveying of the business community
and the people. The people we have talked to said keep the service rather than
let it out. I don't know what the poll would be here if we asked these people
right here how they would feel if the City should get out of the business and
let Big Sky Haul-a-way, Yellowstone Sanitation and D & F Sanitation come in and
bid for it. You could not bid alone, oould you not?
Dennis Johnston Not at this time, no.
Marvin Carter So you would have to have Yellowstone Sanitation or D & F to be
in conjunction with you in order to bid.
Duane Behm Dennis, in answer to one of your other questions, last year we had
to spend $15,030.23 just for containers.
Dennis Johnston Replacement, repair or what?
Duane Behm Both replacement and repair.
Larry Peterson $8,000 for cans was based on a historical record of approximately
a can every week at about $175 a can.
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Dennis Johnston I am not questioning the container cost. I asked you about
the man at $17,000 a year. What is his duties?
Larry Peterson We have individuals that go out and pick up cans that have
been blown away by wind storms, repair cans, lids get torn off, they have
to put bolts in them, they have to repair the base they are standing on.
Sometimes it takes one, sometimes two, but over the year it takes an average
of one man full time for that kind of work. To put out spot trucks, pick
up overflow, that type of thing. That is why it was added on.
Dennis Johnston What about alley maintenance at $10,000 a year.
Larry Peterson That is what it costs'to maintain the alleys. To go up and
down there without breaking down every 100 yards. Fixing ruts, chuckholes,
that type of thing.
also includes snow removal in the wintertime, which
mud, put gravel on them,
Sue Carter Larry, that
has not been mentioned.
Roy Williams You still
If I asked somebody for
didn't answer my question about an 87% increase.
an 87% increase in my wages or if I asked for an 87%
increase in my room rates, I wouldn't be in business. Is it possible to
phase this in over a two or three year period.
Marvin Carter Again, Roy, we were taking into consideration that you have
some kitchenettes that you do rent out by the month. If you want to come to
us monthly and report to us the number you have rented and we assess you
accordingly. If you are renting two, then it would be $14.00 a month for
those two, plus a base fee for the motel.
Roy Williams I don't care to monkey with that part of it.
Marvin Carter That's why we tried to even it out and say OK the Russell
Motel has 12, 14, 16 units. They rent out 4 or 5 per month and come up with
a figure, a ball park figure that we assume will be half way feasible.
Roy Williams I trust and hope that I don't get in a situation here where all
of my expenses go up 87%. I will be out of business.
Paul Gjefle I think in answer to some of his questions, being an apartment
house owner we felt that we were being discriminated against by the $180.00
a year flat fee, when we were paying so much per unit for each apartment.
Like in ours, we have been paying $60.00 and $54.00 on the old rate. Ours
comes out to quite a bit more than his $150.00 a year, and he is renting by
the month, the same as we are. And we don't generate any more garbage than
he does. We have only one person in most of our apartments. This is where
some of the heat came on the committee as to how the structure should be.
We thought that we were being discriminated against because we were paying
more per unit than they were and they were renting by the week and by the
month. I called every motel in town the last time we had garbage hearings
and I couid have rented a motel room by the week or month from every motel
in town, except the Locomotive Inn. They all offered to rent me a motel
unit by the week or the month. This is where some of the heat is coming from,
because we felt we were being discriminated against.
Bill Lohof Because they are "empty" is why they are for rent. You can call
any motel in November, December, January or February -- they are empty. They are
not generating any income and they are not using any garbage.
Marvin Carter But they generate garbage the other 8, 9, 10 months of the year
and so we would have to try to make some adjustment for the winter months.
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Bill Lohof I would report every month if that apartment is rented and then go
on that type of basis. That's~fair, but there is a lot of months where you
might have 4 or 5 vacancies.
Bob Lowell You never answered my question about 8 using one container.
Don Meyers How many containers are there behind J. C. Penney?
Marvin Carter One, with a potential of two using the City's.
Bob Lowell You never fill them up either, there is eight on there and you are
getting a lot of money out of one container.
Marvin Carter When you say we are getting a lot of money, Bob, I won't say that
we are not getting a fair share, but from what the can should generate and
you take 4 people on the residential using one can and take that times the $84.00
and then take three times that because the container in the business area is
picked up three times more than in the residential areas. Then that container
use has to generate quite a bit_of money. Some containers will generate more
money than Others~ We can't say each container has to generate X number of
dollars. Because you have a container at basically all of your stores in the
business community and outlying areas. I am thinking of the Kwik Way, Speedy
Marts, and places like that. They generate $504.00 a year. Pat Mullaney's
container down here generates $720 a year, but he fills his container fuller
daily than say Speedy Mart, Kwik Way or Terry's Qwick Stop. And so we are
trying to base it on the volume that is put in that container. We tried to
figure out a basis here that is fair and equitable to everyone. I can't
guarantee that it is, but we will certainly take under advisement the motels
and you people and give you the opportunity if you want to report the old
method.
Kathleen Phillips Is that the same rate that everybody in my block is going
to pay? The houses that have rentals in them and everything starts at $84.00?
Marvin Carter Yes.
Charles Olsen Is it the intention of the garbage department or the City of
Laurel just to break even on the garbage hauling business, or to make a profit?
Marvin Carter The City can't come out and say we are going to make a big profit,
because there is no way we can.
Charles Olsen You sure are making an awful profit on me.
Marvin Carter You may think it is, and maybe it is, and that's what we will
have to take under advisement and talk to you more. Sit down with you on your
figures of your rentals, etc.
Charles Oisen I think that private hauler would give me a better deal than
what you people are doing. Are you trying to break even or what?
Marvin Carter We are trying to break even. What has happened to the garbage
business, for years they played catch up and now we are at the point where we
are just about caught up.
Charles Olsen You are just about going over the moon now.
Don Meyers Where is Big Sky Haul-a-way going to dump your garbage?
Charles Olsen I don't know. That's his problem.
Albert Ehrlick Mr. Olsen, let me say one thing. Call Bennett up in Billings
tomorrow and he will tell you anybody from an incorporated City has to pay
extra.
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I understand it is $3.00 a ioad.
It is more than that from an incorporated city.
If I quit your garbage business completely?
You will be charged the minimum.
I will be charged the $180.007
NO, $84.00.
$84.00, and t can haul my own garbage privately to Yellowstone
Yes.
Duane Behm Albert~ a few years ago we
City receives the service and they all
the scheduled rate and we couldn't
there.
Charles Olsen Isn't that what you
Duane Behm How is it unamerican?
took the stance that everybody in the
are going to pay the base rate plus
feel that we could let one out here and
call unamerican?
Charles Olsen Not giving me a choice of what I want to do with my garbage.
Don Meyers What is saying that after we don't charge you a rate that you don't
go down the alley and dump it anyway.
Duane Behm Not any more unamerican than the choice you have on whether you are
going to pay property tax or income tax or several other things that you receive
a service for.
Charles Olsen
I just plain don't understand it.
Marvin Carter How many units are you renting by the month right now?
Charles Olsen None by the month, but 5 by the week. Which is 7 or 8 people
and some of them are children and they don't generate very much garbage.
Marvin Carter Calculating that quickly by going by the month with your units
that you have rented by the week, and with the $84.00 office base that comes
out to $504.00 and I don't think you are being charged that.
Charles Olsen You're trying to get $336.00.
Marvin Carter We would be glad to talk to you and take under advisement your
units and we will get a hold of you for a meeting and you come in and talk to
the committee.
Charles Olsen Alright.
There were no further comments from the public.
~Motion by Alderman Marvin Carter to close the public hearing on the proposed
garbage rates, seconded by Alderwoman Sue Carter. Carried.
The Council meeting recessed for approximately ten minutes.
PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED USE OF REVENUE SHARING FOR FISCAL YEAR 1982-83:
This being the time and place advertised, a public hearing was held.
There were no opponents present.
A question was asked by Cam Calvert regarding the $2,500.00 to the Laurel
Senior Citizens. This goes to the Laurel Senior Citizens Center for their
building and maintenance program.
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A question was also asked by Donna Kilpatrick about t~e $3,500 in taxes.
This goes for the City's share of SIDs, lighting and sweeping districts.
Motion by Alderman Behm to adopt the proposed use of Revenue Sharing funds
as presented, seconded by Alderman Meyers. Carried.
CORRESPONDENCE: Received a letter from the State of Montana, Depar~m~ht of
Highways, regarding the Federal Aid Urban System.
Received a letter from the State of Montana, Department of Highways,
informing the City of Laurel of the state gas tax allocation for 1982-83 in
the amount of $45,625.
Received a letter from the Yellowstone County Tavern Association signed
by all members in Laurel except Sonny O'Day who could not be contacted,
regarding the recent test done on the bars for serving minors.
Mike Bloom commented that no arrests were made and no entrapment was involved
and nobody was enticed to commit any crimes. We were just merely there with
an individual who happened to be a juvenile and there were some clerks that
did not card her, and there were some who did. We conferred with the City
Attorney on the action to be taken.
Joe Bradley I would just like to point out to the Council that as part of the
~icensing laws and also as part of the liquor license that there is a statute
that says all such businesses will be open to public inspection to the police
chief at all times. .I think that's all we did here was inspect and we warned
them about a defective condition that we found. That's part of the requirement
for a license. I think it's in the City's right to protect itself and its
licensing.
I would also like to comment they say we have been advised that the person
who sold a six pack of beer to the underage girl has been fired from her job
and what recourse does she have. Well ~f this has been signed by everyone
who sold liquor then the person who fired her signed it. Which I think is
kind of an odd result. She was fired because she violated a rule that her
employer had.
Mayor Ehrlick I got called out by Fitchner Friday night besause of the street
dance. I have never seen so many underaged kids.in my life have beer and throw
beer bottles and cans all over the street. Leonard Fitchner said he knew some
of the kids and they weren!t over 12 or lB years Qld. Rob will verify this
because he was called out at the same time. I can see why our police department
would want to police something like this. Mike, that street dance was not OKd
by the City Council. I finally had given the OK on it, and when I had given
the OK they were going to use half of the road so they barricaded all of the
road. Leonard, his wife and myself had a hard time keeping the kids out of
his parking lot.and off of the cars. We used 2 auxiliary police on top of it.
I have never heard such profane and rotten language in my life and then to
have a letter like.this. That letter was not intended to fire anybody~ it
was intended to just get their act together.
Glenn Sanders -- Cheerio Lounge Why couldn't there have been a letter written
to every Laurel business? Now this represents 17 or 18 Laurel businesses.
Why couldn't there have. been a letter written to each member ~hat sells alcohol
beverages, rather than bring a girl into.the bar that's underage? That's our
complaint on this thing. If we could have gotten a letter from the City
Attorney to watch for these things, this is all that would have been necessary.
Not to come around and bring a teenage girl in. What did that prove? I would
like to know. The girl looked like she was 20 or 22 years old. And like you're
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saying about 12 year olds drinking -- who's buying it for them? They are not
buying it from the grocery stores etc. It's just like I talked to Eva up at
the liquor store. She has seen people come in, have an ID, they're 19 or 20
years old, she can't refuse to sell it to them. They get half pints and she
has seen them go out the door and hand them out to kids who are underage.
And they have no control over that, which we don't. We sell it to people
who are old enough and we have no recourse.
My only complaint was the way it was handled. If we would have received
a letter from the City Attorney stating that they were going to do this, I
think that would have been muoh better.
This is a good reminder too, I don't discount this. It reminded that
everyone is going to be checked, and it should happen occasionally, it alerts
people. But just the manner in which it was handled is wh~ everyone was
dissatisfied about.
Joe Bradley I would just like to point out to the Council again that we were
very careful to not let out the names of the people who sold liquor to this
girl. Nobody has been prosecuted, it was just to make a point and it was a
matter of judgement. I though~ that this would make a point better than a
letter.
CLAIMS: A copy of the "Statement of Items Released for Payment" for the June
claims was presented to the Council for review and approval.
Bob Gauthier reported that the Budget/Finance Committee met this afternoon
and reviewed the claims.
Motion by Alderman Gauthier to approve the June claims as presented,
seconded by Alderwoman $'ue Carter. Carried.
TERRY EASTLICK - HOME OCCUPATION DESIGNATION: Bill Brennan reported that the
City/County Planning Board and the License Committee has recommended approval.
The License Committee has made the stipulation that no work be done on the
premises. Discussion.
Don Meyers suggested we should take a look at this, seems like every week
we have someone wanting to start a business in a residential area.
More disoussion.
Motion by Alderman Marvin Carter to acoept the recommendation of the
City/County Planning Board and the License Committee, seconded by Alderman
Brennan. Carried 6--1, with Alderman Meyers voting, "No."
LARRY PETERSON - PRIORITIES OF THE FEDERAL AID URBAN SYSTEM: You have a copy
of a letter to ~ Martin, Harlan Lund and myself.
The City Council had at a prior time approved a Federal Aid Urban Systems
priority list. The State required that a cost analysis be done on each one.
That has been completed, which is part of the letter you have. Based on that
we are asking the Council to reconsider the priority list as we now show it.
This being primarily beoause we wish to use the funds to get something on the
ground. The prior£ty we had initially showed a couple of projects that
turned out to be so expensive to accomplish and it wouid be unlikely we would
get them on the ground in the next 2 or B years. The Federal funding for these
is not assured any time after the next year. At least not enough to accomplish
these. So we are asking for a reconsideration of the priority list.
Discussion~
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RESOLUTION NO. 1914
ADOPTING THE PRIORITIES OF THE FEDERAL AID URBAN
SYSTEM FOR THE LAUREL AREA.
Motion by Alderman Marvin Carter that Resolution No. 1914 be passed and
adopted, seconded by ~lderman Brennan. Carried.
BID AWARD FOR GRAVEL AND ASPHALT: The bids were opened at a special meeting
on June 30, 1982, and referred to the Street and Alley Committee for review
and recommendation.
Discussion.
Motion by Alderman Marvin Carter to accept the bid from William Krug
Sand and Gravel in the.amount of $36,625.00 and Cenex Refinery for asphalt
in the amount of $200.00 a ton for MC-250-800 f.o.b, refinery and $170.00
a 'ton for emulsions (any grade) f.o.b, refinery, seconded by Alderman Meyers.
Carried.
PRELIMINARY BUDqET.:~ The Preliminary Budget was presented to the City Council
by Alderman Behm, Budget/Finance Committee Chairman. More cuts still need
to be made in some funds and no action is required tonight. The Preliminary
Budget is to be adopted on July 20th, a preliminary hearing on August 4th and
adoption of the final budget on August 9th.
COMMITTEE REPORTS:
Street & Alley Committee Don Meyers presented and reviewed the minutes of
June 21, 1982.
Motion by Alderman Meyers to accept and approve the Street and Alley
committee minutes of June 21, 1982, seconded by Alderman Behm. Carried.
Ambulance Committee Sue Carter presented and reviewed the committee minutes
of February 23~d, March 23rd, and June 29th.
Motion by Alderwoman Sue Carter that the Ambulance Committee minutes of
February 23rd, March 23rd', and June 29th be accepted and approved, seconded
by Alderman Brennan. Carried.
Budget/Finance Committee Duane Behm presented and reviewed the minutes of
June 16th, 21st, 23rd, 29th and 30th.
Discussion regarding insect control.
Motion By Alderman Marvin Carter to pursue an insect control program,
seconded by Alderwoman Sue Carter. Carried.
Motion by Alderman Behm to accept and approve the Budget/Finance Committee
minutes of June 16th, 21st, 23rd, 29th, and BOth, seconded by Alderman Meyers.
Carried.
Cemetery Committee Rob Harris presented and reviewed the minutes of June 9,
1982.
Motion by Alderman Harris to accept and approve the Cemetery Committee
minutes of 'Ju'ne 9th, seconded by Alderman Marvin Carter. Carried.
BILL BRENNAN - POLICE RESERVE & AUXILIARY: several years ago there was supposed
to have been a resolution setting up so many members for the reserves and so
many members for the auxiliary, and we can't find a copy of that resolution.
We wanted to know if the Council wanted to drop the auxiliary classification
and go strictly with the reserve. Also, I would like to bring up if we could
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get a policy on What dances welare required to police~
Discussion.
It was suggested that the Police Committee draw up a reSoiution and
present it to the Council for approval.
Joe Bradley said that there would also be a couple of ordinances that
would need to be amended regarding the Police Reserve and Auxiliary.
MARVIN CARTER GARBAGE RATE STRUCTURE: For the record, I wo~ld like to
thank the press and the radio station for the coverage they did on our
preview to the garbage hearing. I felt that the hearing was successful
even though it got a little hea~ed at times, and I would move for the
adoption of the new rate structure at this time and at the next meeting,
then have the ordinances and resolutions for it. But at least get preliminary
approval from the Couneil on the rate structure so we can go ahead from
there.
Motion by Alderman M~rvin Carter to adopt the new garbage rate structure,
seconded bY Ald'erm~ Beh~.''' Carrie~.
Alderman Meyers ¢0mmended Marvin Carter and his committee on the presen-
tation of the garbage hearing tonight.
MA.Y.O.R'S. COMMENTS: Mayor Ehrlick introduced Jean Carol Thompson and her
husband.
M.r.s. Thomps?n One of the reasons that we are here is something that happened
over the ~th of July. It happened last year and again this year. I think
most of ~ou know who I am and my husband too. We are both teachers here and
we have.always tried to teaoh our children and any ohildren that we have ever
been dealing with, that the City Council are the people who make the laws and
the polioemen are the ones who enforce them. We feel like as a citizen and a
taxpayer and also as a business person here in the City of Laurel, our rights
have been violated.
Mr. Thompson Our problem basically eoncerns the handling of laws relating
to use of city licenses. We feel that all legitimate Laurel businesses pay
a lioense from the city which is a form of tax and we have fly-by-night outfits
which come in here and sell without the benefit of a city license. Now I
know this particular situation has been confused a little bit with the booth
events in the park. We are not after the civic organizations which come in
under the sponsorship of the Chamber of Commerce which are Laurel businesses
with legitimate licenses sponsoring ¢ivie organizations to have things for
the ~th of July.
We are not after those people, but we are after strictly ~ommercial
businesses who operate in Laurel without a city license, then they get out of
town and we can't touoh them.
In this particular case, we informed the police about a ¢ommerciaI
business, Jolly Wagon, who is operating in violation of law for the second
consecutive year on the ~th of July. The results visable to me upon com-
~Iaining was that the violator of the law appeared at my residence to tell
me off and announced that we are not big enough and we don't have enough pull
to stop him from breaking the law. Then he continued to operate illegally
for the rest of the day and proved it. After efforts to get this situation
corrected, I am now informed that the violator has been forgiven for the
previous years' offense in which he iied to the city telling them he was out
of business so he couldn't pay for that year, and he was forgiven for violating
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the law this year because he claims that one of the councilmen told him that
he was free to violate the law. Even if he was ignorant of the law, Which he
isn't, he's been in business for awhile. He knows he has to have a City license.
This is no excuse for violating the law. I further understand that now he
has been issued a renewal of the license he didn't have last year when he was
out of business, and he is still in town violating the law -- selling.
I think if he was issued a renewal and he did not have a license last year,
we are again breaking the code which says that if you are asking for a new
license you have to be approved by the City.Council and investigated first.
He didn't have a license last year and he wasn't in business, he couldn't
renew it. So I would ask the City Council to consider his application for
a new license in light of the fact he violated the law last year, told the
city.where to stick,it when they asked him to pay up, and the fact that he
violated the law again this year and in spite of continuing to violate the
law.
If there is anybody in the city government that feels outside businesses
should really have superior rights to-the people who buy licenses, I would like
to know why. It's been told to me that some councilmen said that he had the
right to violate this law -- to go ahead and sell. Is that correct or incorrect?
Rob Harris I don't know if there were any other councilmen involved on this,
but that was not at all the statement that was said to that man. As a matter
of fact when he called I didn't talk to him personally. He asked if he had to
operate with a city license and he does.
Mr. Thompson Was this before or during the 4th?
Rob Harris During the 4th. At that time he asked if the City Chambers could
be opened and a license be granted to him. I said absolutely not, and I said
if he had more questions that I was unable to answer, he could call the Mayor.
There was a dispatcher there at the time and there was nothing at all said
that he could go ahead and sell ice cream bars or whatever he had to sell~
because he was from out of town or anything else. If he told you that or
whoever did, that was flat out wrong.
Don Meyers I was also called up there and when I went up there to talk on the
phone, it was on hold and he was gone. That was after Rob.
Mr. Thompson Now I understood that he had told the police and City Attorney
that Councilmembers had told him to go ahead. So, again he has lied to the
City for the second straight year. I object in him having a renewal license
when he didn't have a license last year, and I think if he is going to be
considered it should be considered in the light of two years of lying to the
City and abating his penalties.
Sue Carter Keith, ~I would like to speak on last year. I was head of the 4th
of July last year and it's not the Chamber of Commerce, it's just a 4th of July
Committee. He did pay a $10.00 booth fee to sell in the park last year, whether
he was on the street or not, I did not police it.
Mrs. Thompson But he was running up and down the street and we called the
police last year on it because he was in violation of the law then, and nothing
was done last year about it either.
Sue carter I am just speaking of the point that he did pay me a $10.00 booth
fee, and he was in the park and that's where I saw him.
Mr. Thompson Did he come and volunteer this?
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Sue Carter No, I had to go collect the money, none of those booths volunteer
money.
Mr. Thompson What I saw in the Outlook was Laurel civic organizations, basically.
Sue Carter There were a few independents. Last year there was a taco booth,
and this year the same taco booth was there. The Jolly Wagon was there last
year and also this year, and he also paid his $10.00 fee this year because I
had asked Bob Dantic.
Mr. Thompson They are still selling without a city license. If they are sel-
ling in the park and paying the Chamber of Commerce a $10.00 fee, that's alright
with me as long as they have a city license, if they are a commercial establish-
ment.
Sue Carter This is a one-day offair. This is the rules that the 4th of July
Committee came up with, to sell in the park whether they are independents or
non profit. Merely because a lot of the non profit people do not choose to
work that hard. So you grasp at whoever will sit in the park and do it.
They are not to go on the street. I am not policing the Street.
Mrs. Thompson We are agreeing with that~ if the organizatio~ that come into
town are going to pay whatever the committee sets up. A lot of times it's your
service groups that do this type of thing. But he was not in the park. He was
not in the park last year. He may have sold over there when the fireworks was
there, fine. He had a license to sell over there. But he did not have a license
to go up and down our streets pedaling his wares. And we have to have a license
to go up and down the streets to pedal our wares. That is not fair. It's in
violation of the law.
A question was asked if he was over here operating on any day other than
the 4th.
Mr. Thompson He only comes when there is a big enough crowd to make a lot of
money quick and get out of town.
Don Meyers said he had asked one of the operators what she had taken in that
morning -- $85.00. She was not the owner, I am sure.
Mr. Thompson The owner was the one who was sent the bill last year for viola-
ting the law and city license and said he was out of business, so he didn't
have to pay. Besides he is out of town and you can't grab him out of the city
limits.
So I was told if we were going to get this guy this year we got to get
him when he is doing the job right here in the town of Laurel. I tried again
and I failed again. He was here, we knew he was here, we knew he was violating
the law, and he told me you can't stop me; and he was right, because I sure
failed.
More discussion regarding food booths in the park.
Mr. Thompson He does not have a license in this city to go around the streets
of Laurel and pedal anything. He was to go into the City office. He was a
commercial person, he knows the law. If I can find out the law, he can find
out the law too. He did not come and buy a city license. We went to the city
license person to find this out. She told us that if he was in this town,
he was to be arrested. He was to pay a $50 fine and spend one night in jail
plus pay for the City license. We called the City police. They did absolutely
nothing but give us the run around. I called Mr. Gauthier and asked him about
it. He called me back and he said to me that the boy had been stopped, they
were looking for the girl. That would imply that he was not allowed to sell
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anymore in our city because he did not have a license. It gave us the impres-
sion that this guy had been stopped, that our laws had been obeyed, our Police
Chief and his offieers had done his job. I realize that the 4th of July is a
very~hmctic time around here and somebody's license selling in the town is very
minor to all of the drunks and all of the other probiems. And I know that in
some people's mind that this is a very minor thing, but it's the principle of
the thing. He violated our law and if we are not going to enforce it, why
should all of the business people in this town have to buy a license? Why do
we need one? If our police are not going to protect us. That's the way I
feel about it.
Don Meyers I feel the same way you do, and I feel they had a lot of important
things to do that day and without the Police Reserve they couldn't even handle
the 4th of July in the first place.
Mrs. Thompson I know this is a minor thing, but it would have taken just a
few minutes to arrest those guys~and pick them up off of the street. I was
given the impression that this was being done. And what does the little Jolly
Wagon guy do, he comes up and he harrassed me in my own home.
Don Meyers Did you call the police then?
Mrs. Thompson Yes.
Don Meyers Did they come?
Mrs. Thompson No.
Motion by Alderman Marvin Carter that the City Attorney be instructed to
write a very stinging letter to this gentleman and tell him if he should cross
the City line again, he will be picked up, seconded by Alderman Meyers.
Discussion.
Joe Bradley He has a City license now, we can't do anything about it. Their
other complaint is that he had a license two year's ago and he didn't have one
last year. He should be investigated again. Peg just issued the renewal and
I think it's been the practice that if it's been investigated that recently and
he wants the same license for the same things, it's issued again.
Another thing you should understand
He said that he lied to the police today.
did that.
Sue Carter Who harrassed Keith?
Joe Bradley The guy who drove the truck, not the owner.
Basically the Chief and I would like some guidance. Technically everybody
in that park should have had a city lieense to sell, Keith said he had no com-
plaint with the non profit charitable organizations. But he is asking us to
selectively enforce the law against certain people and not certain people the
way this ordinance is drawn. There is no exemption in here for charitable
organizations selling in the park on the 4th of July. Now I recommend the
Council refer that to the License Committee. But if he wanted us to pick this
guy up, in fairness, we should have shut down every booth in that park and I
chose not to do that. I told them to find out who doesn't have a license,
tell them they had better get in here Tuesday morning and pay, and apparently
that's what they did. That's the way we handled it because we were caught on
the 4th with crowds over there and if we started shutting booths down, I thought
we would have a big problem.
is the owner wasn't here driving around.
Well, it was one of his employees who
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I would ask the Council to refer this to the License Committee and we will
draw up an ordinance, we'll exempt charitable organizations. We have already
got a similar ordinance for gambling - for non profit bingo games. We can
do the same thing for city licenses on one time occasions. We should have that
in there, because without it everybody in that park should have had a license.
The Mayor referred this to the License Committee.
Mayor Ehrlick In getting back to the motion, I am in accord with Marvin. I
think when it comes to harassing somebody, I think they should be notified.
Joe Bradley I will notify him that his employee did that, and he had better
be a little bit more careful.. But we do have his one complaint that he wants
the man to be invest£gated again, so I'll ask the Council to consider that.
Question was called on the motion by Marvin Carter. Motion carried.
Joe Bradley Should we revoke the license issued today and reinvestigate him
all over?
Marvin Carter I think the question that is coming to my mind. He bought a
license. That allows him to not only come in here on the 4th of July, but
allows him to come in here every day of the week for the rest of the year.
I don't know if I want him with the practice he pulled on us say last year
and again this year, that I want him in here.
Rob Harris Another point too, he knew that he needed a City license. Because
he asked that somebody come down here and issue him one on July 4th, a Sunday.
I think that has to be taken into consideration.
Motion by Alderman Meyers to revoke the Jolly Wagon license and leave it
up to the License Committee to review it and determine if they want to issue a
license or not, seconded by Alderman Brennan. Carried.
Marvin Carter In connection with Joe's other question, license that an
establishment should have in the park. Take into consideration that we do
not ask the baseball groups, fire ladies auxiliary who may have bake sales
etc down town and the firemen pedaling tickets. So we are opening a big can
of worms when we go into this area.
Comments were also made about the Herbstfest.
Mike Bloom I sympathize with these folks. However, we try to deal fairly
and impartially and we had a couple different ringers thrown in here with
regards to those who were up there, like the taco place. It just brought to
my attention on Sunday about those people being up there and that was one of
the reasons why we were confused enough and in order to be fair and impartial
is why we didn't jerk the guy off of the street.
Discussion regarding the notification that the Jolly Wagon's license
has been revoked.
Joe Bradley will contact them and also the check in payment of the license
will be returned.
Mayor's Comments Continued The Mayor announced that there will be an executive
session immediately following tonight's meeting.
Appointments
Airport Authority - Herb Olson replacing Jim Klein
Fire Department - Mike Atkinson
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City-County Planning=Board - reappointment of
Otto Preikszas and Bus Roberts
Police Reserve - Richard Wayne Rollison
Mary Margaret Korth
Sue Strand
Jesse Chavez
Pat Metzger
Mike Dodge
Andy Norstrum
Dale Richard Sanford
The Mayor asked for approval of the appointments.
Motion by Alderman Marvin Carter to approve all of the Mayor's appoint-
ments, seconded by Alderman Meyers. Carried.
BEER MUG In regards to the dance which was supposed to have been held, the
Police Reserve officers were not notified until after they had reported to
work. So they figured it would be the same as a call out and sent the bill
for $15.00 to the Beer Mug and they never paid it. Jim Morrison would like
some action on this.
Discussion.
Motion by Alderman Meyers that the City send the Beer Mug a bill, seconded
by Alderman Marvin Carter. Carried.
LARRY PETERSON - NAZARENE CHURCH On the June 15th Council meeting it was
brought up that the Nazarene Church had not completed their sidewalk on one
side of the property, and it was directed that they complete it. A letter was
written and shortly thereafter we were contacted by the minister of the church
questioning if the City Council would reconsider and allow them to finish it
sometime in the future when they poured concrete to finish their basement.
They didn't want to put sidewalk in and back concrete trucks over that to
pour concrete in their basement and break it all up. I checked on the site
to see if there was other access for concrete trucks to get in and pour the
basement at some time in the future. They said it could be any time from 6
mo. to a year and 6 mo.,they didn,t know. There is other access besides backing
over a sidewalk. I still recommend that they be required to put in new side-
walk in that one section. But he did ask that it be brought up to the City
Council to be reconsidered.
Discussion.
Motion by Alderman Meyers to accept Larry Peterson's recommendation,
seconded by Alderman Harris.
Discussion.
Motion by Alderman Marvin Carter to amend the motion to extend the deadline
for the sidewalk insta'llation to October 1, 1982, seconded by Alderman Brennan.
Carried 5--2, with Alderman Gauthier and Alderman Meyers voting, "No."
The question was called on the original motion, as amended, which reads
as follows: To accept Larry Peterson's recommendation and to extend the dead-
line for the sidewalk installation to October 1, 1982. Original motion, as
amended, carried 6--1, with Alderman Gauthier voting, "No."
MIKE BLOOM - SIGNS: Section 10.24.030, entitled Stopping, Standing or Parking
Prohibited in Specified Places, lists 14 criteria with regard to no parking
zones throughout the City.
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After further discussion, including the yellow curb south of the high
school, it was suggested that copies of this section be made and distributed
to the Council members for review and make recommendations at the next meeting.
It w~s also suggested that Mike Bloom, Joe Bradley and the Street and Alley
Committee meet to establish new criteria. It was also suggested that the
Transportation Director be contacted in regards to the yellow curb by the
high school.
PEG KAMERZEL: Reported that she received a phone call from Vonnie Tubman in
regards to the garbage notice that came with the water bill this month. She
was very upset because on the notice the triangular park down by the Quick Way
was referred to as Larsen Park, only because it was by the Larsen Apartments.
She said that her parents dedicated that land to the City of Laurel many years
ago.
Maybe just a letter from the Mayor explaining the reason why it was
referred to as Larsen would help.
Don Meyers said that he would talk to Vonnie Tubman.
There being no further bu~inessz~-~ome before the Council at this time,
the meeting was adjourned at 9.52 p~ ) _ ~ ~
Donal L. Hack ann, City ~
Approved by the Mayor and passed by the City Council of the City of
Laurel, Montana, this 20th day of July, 1982.
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