HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Minutes 08.16.1988Minutes of the City Council of Laurel
August 16, 1988
A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Laurel,
Montana, was held in the Council Chambers and called to order by Mayor
Bob Gauthier at 7:00 p.m., on August 16, 1988.
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT:
Ervin Wood
Bob Graham
Chuck Rodgers
L.D. Collins
Chuck Dickerson
Norman Orr
Bruce Teeters
COUNCIL MEMBERS ABSENT: Donna Kilpatrick
INVOCATION: Invocation was given by Alderman Collins.
MINUTES:
Motion by Alderman Dickerson to approve
regular meeting of August 2, 1988, as presented,
Orr. Motion carried 7--0.
the minutes of the
seconded by Alderman
Motion by Alderman Collins to approve the minutes
special meetings on August 3, 1988, seconded by Alderman
Motion carried 7--0.
of the two
Dickerson.
Motion by Alderman Dickerson to approve
special meeting of August 8, 1988, as presented~
Graham. Motion carried 7--0.
the minutes of the
seconded by Alderman
CORRESPONDENCE:
Received the minutes and activity report for the month of July from
the Air Pollution Control Board.
Received a copy of a letter to Ace Electric from the BPC Risk
Management Claims administrator regarding the claim by Ray Fiechtner.
CITY CLERK & CITY TREASURER'S FINANCIAL STATEMENTS:
The City Clerk and City Treasurer's financial statements for the month
of July were presented.
Motion by Alderman Orr that the City Clerk and City Treasurer's
financial statements for the month of July, 1988~ be approved,
seconded by Alderman Collins. Motion carried 7--0.
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TOURIST INFORHATION BUILDING:
Sedley Barsness, President of the Chamber of Commerce, stated that at
a previous meeting the Council granted the Chamber the Superhost
Program. This is an official program sponsored by the State of
Montana and they have set guidelines for each participant to follow.
The first guideline is to have a room large enough to display all
tourism information and to be able to walk freely around it.
Secondly, a public restroom must be provided in the building and the
final requirement, is to provide wall or counter space to display a
state and city map as a reference guide for tourists.
The Chamber now needs an area large enough to be able to set up the
racks to display the information properly. Sedley stated there are
approximately 150 different pieces of tourist information and each
piece contains 25 to 100 additional copies.
The Chamber suggested trading sides with the Retired Men~s Club who
currently occupy the larger portion of the building but the men~s
group is against this, stating the smaller side would not provide
enough room for their needs. It was stated that the men's club has
made many improvements to the room and building such as repairs to
both the interior and exterior including a new roof, new plumbing,
carpeting, and a stove to heat the room.
Discussion followed concerning whether the groups have checked
locating elsewhere, the terms of the lease on the building, and
possibility of both groups using the same space. ~
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Joan Ringling stated there are between 10 and 20 tourist that stop per
week. This number could greatly increase if the location is
advertised. Joan stated that near Rockvale there is a billboard sign
for Custer Country Tourism Region which includes Laurel. This sign
advertises two events that are taking place each month and they are
willing to place the notation "For your Custer Country information,
stop at the Laurel Visitor Center" on the bottom of this billboard.
Joan said this cannot be done until a location has been decided upon
and the materials are set up and available.
Bob Burns, member of the Retired Men's Club, stated the club was
formed in 1967 to give the retired men something to do with their
spare time. The club currently has 35 active members. Bob said the
club has put out $ 1,606.00 on the building for upkeep with some of
the money coming from the members' own pockets. Bob said their source
of revenue comes from the winner of the card game donating 10 cents of
the 25 cent winnings to the kitty for upkeep on the building. He
stated they pay insurance, half the gas bill, part of the light bill,
and they also pay a janitor to clean. They have also been known to
donate to worthy groups and organizations around town and Bob feels
the group is a positive influence to Laurel.
It was stated that the group came to the City Council in 1967 and was
granted permission to use the building as long as they take care of
the maintenance on the building.
Bob felt it would not work having the two groups share the building.
He stated the language can be questionable during a card game and he
does not want tourist families exposed to this.
Joe Bradley stated that all improvements made by the Men's Club are
considered their rent over the years and if the club would decide they
do not want to share the building and have to move, nothing can be
taken from the building.
Sedley stated the Chamber has gotten a delay from the State on setting
this up and another two week delay will not hurt anything.
Motion by Alderman Collins to postponed a decision on this item
until the next regular Council meeting to allow the Men's Club to meet
and discuss it, seconded by Alderman Graham. Motion carried 7--0.
HERBSTFEST PAItADE ROUTE:
Jean Carroll Thompson and Connie Penne, Merbstfest Committee members,
came before the Council to request a change in the parade route. This
change was requested by the Laurel Care Center to allow the residents
to view the parade.
The parade will start at the corner of East 6th Street and Wyoming
Avenue, traveling south to Main Street, west to First Avenue, north to
6th Street, west to 3rd Avenue, north to 9th Street, east to 2nd
Avenue, and south to the old north school lot where the parade will
disband.
Motion by Alderman Collins to approve the Herbstfest parade route
as presented, seconded by Alderman Rodgers. Motion carried 7--0.
Jean Carroll stated that at a Merbstfest Board meeting she and Connie
Penne were appointed co-chairmen of the Herbstfest Downtown
Coordinators. They attended a meeting of the Retail Trades Committee
and heard many ideas that the downtown would like to sponsor and hold
during Herbstfest weekend. Jean Carroll said the Herbstfest Board was
polled to get their opinion on this and it is their consensus that
they will support anything the community is doing to promote this.
Jean Carroll introduced Richard Barnhardt who will present a proposal
of activities that the group of business people would like to support.
Richard Barnhardt stated that the original Herbstfest in Germany was
held in the streets and the Laurel downtown merchants would like to
bring some of the people and money that is spent at the High School to
the downtown area. They propose to do this by closing off First
Avenue from Main Street to First Street on Friday September 23rd, from
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1:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. The south half of the block would be closed to
make room for food booths on the sides and tables with umbrellas in
the middle. There would also be live music provided by area musicians
with room for dancing in the center of the block. The north end of
the block would be used to accommodate a ramp for bicycle tricks.
Joe Bradley asked if beer would be served and Richard stated it would
not.
Discussion followed concerning the closure of First Avenue which is a
State highway and the heavy traffic on Herbstfest weekend.
There was some question as to who is sponsoring this. Richard said a
committee called the Business Association will be meeting for the
first time this week and they are sponsoring it. After more
discussion, Joe said it is a good idea but he recommends the Council
deny the request this year because the Council needs official
sponsorship from some committee or organization and time is running
out. Joe feels that right now Richard Barnhardt is the sponsor.
Sandy Sanderson, owner of LeDuc Jewelers, stated the idea is a very
good one and he doesn't want to see it totally done away with this
year. He feels the First Street location would be as good if not
better than the First Avenue one.
Motion by Alderman Graham to approve the idea
location from First Avenue to West 1st Street between
2nd Avenue, seconded by Alderman Orr.
but move the
1st Avenue and
More discussion followed.
Motion by Alderman Teeters to amend the motion to have an
organization sponsor this downtown event and report back to the
Council at the next meeting, seconded by Alderman Graham. Motion
carried 7--0.
At this time a vote was taken on the original motion as amended, which
now reads as follows: to approve the idea but move the location from
First Avenue to West 1st Street between 1st Avenue and 2nd Avenue and
to have an organization sponsor this downtown event and report back to
the Council at the next meeting. Motion carried 6--1 with Alderman
Teeters voting, "NO."
ORDINANCE ON CURFEW IN CITY PARKS:
Police Chief Alan Crowe stated his department has received complaints
concerning the transients who travel through town and spend the night
in city parks, especially Firemen~s Park. Alan said the police cannot
do anything with them because they do not have the authority since
there is no curfew in effect.
Joe said we are talking curfew but what is meant is to actually close
the parks from a certain time to a certain time. He talked with Donna
Kilpatrick, Park Committee Chairman, and both she and Alan suggested
it be the same as the juvenile curfew which is 11:00 p.m. on week
nights and 1:00 a.m. on weekends. A time would then need to be set
when they would re-open each day. This would include every city. park
with the exception of Riverside Park, which has campers.
Motion by Alderman Dickerson to direct the City Attorney to draw
up an ordinance to close all city parks, with the exception of
Riverside Park, between 11:00 p.m and 6:00 a.m. on weekdays and
between 1:~00 a.m. and 6:00 a.m. on weekends~ seconded by Alderman
Graham.
More discussion followed.
At this time the vote was called
for and there being a division of the
Aldermen Wood, Orr, Collins and
Graham, Dickerson, and Teeters
house, a roll call vote was taken.
Rodgers all voted, "NO." Aldermen
voted, "YES." Motion defeated 4--3.
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Joe stated this idea as proposed was defeated but he asked if there is
another one the Council would like drawn up.
Motion by Alderman Dickerson to postpone this item until the
September 6th meeting so Council members can further think this over,
seconded by Alderman Graham. Motion carried 7--0.
AGREEMENT WITH YELLOWSTONE COUNTY FOR FIRE PROTECTION:
Darrell L. McGillen explained that the fees assessed for the new Fire
Service Area are for the structures on the land only. This leaves the
grasslands, the forest lands, and the farm lands unprotected.
According to the Rural Fire Protection state law, Yellowstone County
must provide, through some agency, protection for these areas.
Darrell stated the Laurel Fire Department has taken on this area
within the boundaries of the Fire Service Area only, for a sum of
approximately $ 1,600.00 a year.
RESOLUTION NO. 2361
A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE CITY OF LAUREL AND
YELLOWSTONE COUNTY, MONTANA, SAID
AGREEMENT RELATING TO FIRE PROTECTION.
Motion by Alderman Dickerson that Resolution No. 2361 be passed
and adopted, seconded by Alderman Orr. Motion carried 7--0.
CAT ORDXNA~NCES:
ORDINANCE NO. 933 (second reading)
AMENDING SECTION 7.04.030 OF THE LAUREL
MUNICIPAL CODE, TO ADD CATS TO ANIMALS
REQUIRING LICENSE IN THE CITY OF LAUREL.
This being the time and place advertised, a public hearing was held.
PROPONENTS: None
OPPONENTS:
Dennis Eden, 6 Montana Avenue #5,
signatures on it. He feels there
catch cats.
presented a petition with over 100
is no feasible way to control or
Barb Schmittou, 1107 12th Avenue, stated she has three cats and that
it's ridiculous to put a collar on a cat because they can get caught
by the collar and strangle themselves. She stated that she gets her
cats rabies shots and she keeps them in the house every night.
Discussion followed concerning the identification of nuisance cats and
Joe stated the reason for the cat ordinances is to force owners to get
rabies shots and encourage them to get their cats spayed or neutered.
Kathy Caton, 609 Hazel Avenue, disagrees with the idea that by
licensing cats it will force people to get the shots. She said that
if pet owners are not responsible enough to do it now, they are not
going to do it even if there is an ordinance telling them to. They
just won't bother to license them. As an extreme measure, Kathy
bought cat repellent which comes in a powder form and is sprinkled on
the ground at a point where you do not want the cat to cross. If
someone is having problems, owner included, maybe they can consider
this.
Nancy Brennan, 1105 East 6th, stated she has always had cats and does
not feel you can put a collar on a cat without possible injury or
death to the cat. She also wanted to know how your going to identify
the cat that is howling or using a sandbox for a bathroom.
It was stated that the City does not have any cat traps and that the
Animal Shelter will take cats at the expense of the City.
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Joanne Stevenson, 407 East Mains said it would be impossible for her
to keep a collar on her cat and keep her in the shop all the time.
She feels that by licensing cats, it may solve one problem but it will
create others.
Gene Hatten~ 1103 10th Avenue, stated he has a cat but it never leaves
the house for more than a few minutes at night. He said there are
more kids running through his yard than there are animals.
Barb Schmittou questioned whether someone like Vicki Brester of the
Animal Welfare League is going to have to license all the animals she
takes in. It was stated that she has a kennel license and this covers
all her animals.
Sandra Hatten, 1103 10th Avenue, agrees with her husband. She feels
that by licensing cats~ the City is punishing the majority of
responsible cat owners in favor of the few who will not control their
pets. She feels there are enough petty charges already and we do not
need another one.
Keith Thompson stated he does not own a cat but he does have a lot
that run through his yard. He questioned the logic and cost of
picking up nuisance cats and boarding them with the Animal Shelter at
the City's expense.
Mr. Bray, 103 Yellowstone Avenue, questioned the cost of the licenses
and Joe Bradley explained the prices. Mr. Bray brought up the point
of the benefit of animals to the older segment of society. He asked
if we really want to take the chance and deny these people their pets
because they can't afford to license them.
Michelle Doheny, 901 Pennsylvania, stated she has a cat and she did
put a collar on it, but later found the collar in a tree and she is
just thankful that the cat is still alive. She said if the reason for
this is to handle nuisance cats, we don't need to license them to do
it because we already have a nuisance ordinance.
Motion by Alderman Dickerson to close the public hearing,
seconded by Alderman Orr. Motion carried 7--0.
Motion by Alderman Graham that Ordinance No. 933 (second reading)
be passed and adopted, seconded by Alderman Collins.
Alan Crowe said his department receives approximately 60-80 animal
complaints a month with most of these being dog complaints. The only
calls on cats are for injured ones.
At this time a roll call vote was taken. Aldermen Wood, Orr,
Dickerson, Collins, Rodgers, and Teeters all voted, "NO." Alderman
Graham voted, "YES." Motion defeated 6--1.
With no objections, the other cat ordinances were removed from the
agenda.
At this time the Council recessed from 9:20 p.m. until 9:28 p.m.
MONTANA MUNICIPAL INSURANCE AUTHORITY:
RESOLUTION NO. 2362
TO EXPAND THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS
ON THE MMIA BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
Motion by Alderman Dickerson that Resolution No. 2362 be
and adopted, seconded by Alderman Orr. Motion carried 7--0.
passed
CODIFICATION UPDATE:
Joe Bradley stated he still does not have a date for publication of
the codes but hopes to have that date by the next regular Council
meeting.
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COMMITTEE REPORTS:
--Ambulance Committee minutes of August 9, 1988 were presented and
reviewed.
Motion by Alderman Teeters to enter the Ambulance Committee
minutes of August 9, 1988, into the record, seconded by Alderman
Dickerson. Motion carried 7--0.
--Board of Adjustment minutes of August 11, 1988 were presented and
reviewed.
Motion by Alderman Collins to enter
minutes of August 11, 1988, into the record,
Motion carried 7--0.
the Board of Adjustment
seconded by Alderman Orr.
--Budget/Finance Committee minutes of August 16, 1988 were presented
and reviewed.
Motion by Alderman Dickerson to approve the committee's
recommendation to charge off $ 808.92 in bad debts in the water fund,
seconded by Alderman Orr. Motion carried 7--0.
Motion by Alderman Orr to enter the Budget/Finance
minutes of August 16, 1988, into the record, seconded by
Dickerson. Motion carried 7--0.
Committee
Alderman
--City Council Committee of the Whole minutes of August 2, 1988 were
presented.
Motion by Alderman Orr to enter the City Council Committee of the
Whole minutes of August 2, 1988, into the record, seconded by Alderman
Rodgers. Motion carried 7--0.
--City-County PlanninK Board minutes of August 11, 1988 were
presented.
Motion by Alderman Dickerson to enter
Board minutes of August 11, 1988, into
Alderman Orr. Motion carried 7--0.
the City-County Planning
the record, seconded by
--P~blic Utilities Committee minutes of August 11, 1988 were presented
and reviewed.
Motion by Alderman Collins to enter the Public Utilities
Committee minutes of August 11, 1988, into the record, seconded by
Alderman Orr. Motion carried 7--0.
COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE:
FIECHTNER CLAIM:
Ray Fiechtner spoke concerning his sewer line that was broke during
construction of the new East Main Lift Station. He stated this has
caused a great inconvenience to his renters and much mental anguish on
his part in dealing with these people. The renters had no sewer and
the sewer backed up into their apartments which resulted in human
waste all over the floors.
Ray stated that he now finds himself digging out of his own pocket
this week, $ 1,100.00 to pay the plumber and $ 1,500.00 to pay the
excavator. He stated Roto-Rooter has contacted him three times and
crews havE called him twice for their payments and none of this is his
fault.
Ray stated it is a proven fact that the sewer was broke due to the
construction in the alley. Be said Jim Flisrand was there along with
himself and Charlie Fisher and Jim has pictures of the break. After
the break was discovered, Ray said Mr. Brown of Western Pump looked up
at him and said "I'm certainly sorry about this." Ray said he
replied, "I'm real sorry about it too, but we'll certainly have to get
it paid for."
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Ray stated he has lived in Laurel for 27 years and his credit rating
has always been number one, he has never let a bill pass through, and
now he finds himself on a string with the people who want payment. He
said this has got to be resolved.
Ray stated that on August 5th, the City's insurance representative
sent him a letter stating the City did not assume any responsibility
for this and that if this letter was directed at Ace Electric, Ace
Electric was suppose to contact Ray. He said he has never been
contacted by Ace Electric or any insurance company on that side and he
will not do it and this is the hang-up. He said the City owns the
alley, it was the City's project and the City awarded the contract and
now, he needs some help from the Council.
Bob Graham said the City Council should do everything in its power to
put pressure on Ace Electric or the insurance company to help Ray with
this. Re said the City owes him that because it was a city project.
Discussion followed concerning the retainage fee and the performance
bond and the difference between the two was clarified. The retainage
fee is a certain percent of the total cost of the project and this
money is held until the work is done according to the contract
specifications. The performance bond is to make sure the job is done
as specified and to insure that the subcontractors are paid.
Joe Bradley stated the City does not have the power to authorize
payment to Ray or admit any liability. When the City entered into the
Montana Municipal Insurance Authority, we signed a contract with them
stating we will send all claims to them, and we have to abide by their
decision. Joe stated that if it is the wish of the Council, he and
Jim Flisrand will sit down with the adjustor and put pressure on him
to come to a settlement.
Bruce Teeters said it is not a question of can we, but rather, we have
to. He feels we owe it to Ray to make something happen on it.
Joe stated that the MMIA has taken a position to be hard on claims
such as this. Before they settle, they will contest it tooth and nail
and this puts Ray in a hard position because we know he is not at
fault. This is a fight between our insurance company and Ace Electric
and our insurance company is not willing to pay Ray and hope to
collect later.
It was questioned as to what Ray's alternatives are if he gets no
action from Ace Electric. Joe said Ray's alternative is to sue both
the City and Ace Electric and once in Court, the judge would decide
who will pay him, either one or the other or a combination of both
parties. More discussion followed concerning alternatives to get this
paid.
Ray commented that he took direction from the City on this. When he
didn't have any sewer, he talked to Jim Flisrand and Jim mentioned to
Ray to get an excavator and a plumber and get this thing going. Once
the break was discovered, Ray was told to get all his bills together
and submit them to the City.
Jim stated that Ray was correct in what he said. Ray had a problem
with his private service line in the area of construction, but at the
time we did not know what the problem was. Jim said the proper
procedure is to have Ray hire a contractor, complete the work and if
it is the City's responsibility, the City will pick up the bill. It
becomes a claim filed against the City and Jim said this is the common
procedure.
Jim stated that in cases such as this, the City does not go in with
its own crew or demand the contractor to repair the line in case the
break was not due to the construction. Jim said this happens quite
often and it is best to have a private individual come in and do the
work. Once the work is done, the bill determined and the fault is
decided, action can then be taken.
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Joe stated that before the next Council meeting, he and Jim will speak
with the insurance adjustor to try and get something moving on this.
Ervin Wood brought up the point that, by law, the City needs to take
the lowest bid on a project and yet we need to protect ourselves. Joe
stated that the law reads "the lowest responsible bidder" and if the
City has had trouble with a contractor and feels they are not
responsible, then they can deny that bid. Both men stated the comment
is not representative of the contractor on this project.
It was suggested that Ray attend the next Council meeting and
hopefully, progress will have been made towards settling this.
BUSINESS OPERATING LOCATIONS:
Polli VanNice commented that several weeks ago the school gave Pizza
Hut permission to set up their tent on First Avenue. The comment from
the Council was that City businesses cannot operate any place other
than the location for which they purchased their business license yet
tonight, the Council gave permission for several businesses to operate
at other locations. Joe Bradley's only comment was that he wished the
Council had not granted that permission but Joe did explain that the
Council can grant permission to hold these booths elsewhere, but the
business needs to come before the Council to get this permission and
not just call City Hall and ask for it there.
Polli VanNice also commented about the liability on the lease
concerning the building on Main Street that the Chamber and the
Retired Men's Club use.
CDBG BLOCK GRANT FUNDS:
Cal Cumin suggested that the City of Laurel advertise for eligibility
of CDBG Block Grant funds. This is a large extensive state and
federal fund program that the City could be an applicant for,
representing business or person. Cal stated it is very complicated
and he doesn't know of anyone who could qualify for it at this place
in time, but if you ever want to use it in the next few months, you
have to have this preliminary hearing. Cal explained that this money
is used to create and retain jobs for low to moderate income persons.
It is also designed to compliment conventional business financing
techniques and other state and federal loan programs and also to fill
in where funding gaps exist. He stated it is the City's obligation to
advertise the funds and maybe there is someone out there who has it
altogether and can apply for it.
A public hearing will be held on September 6th.
Bruce Teeters asked Jim Flisrand if he had spoken any further with Ken
Hageman. Jim replied he had not because he wanted to check with
Sharon and Jeanette in the water office first.
Bruce also stated that some time ago Frank Wiley questioned his water
bill and he was going to take a civil suit against the City concerning
this. Joe Bradley said he spoke to Mrs. Wiley a few days ago and they
are going to pay it themselves under pretest.
There will be a Parking and Building Committee meeting on Monday,
August 29th at 5:30 p.m at the Safety Complex.
Chuck Dickerson said now that 12th Street is completed, what is the
possibility of getting that house moved away from the ditch where it
has been sitting for months. Jim Flisrand stated it depends on the
cooperation of the owner and the county since it is outside the city
limits.
Chuck questioned whether the City can do something in the future to
prevent this from happening again.
Jim Flisrand was going to present the traffic study to the Council
tonight to take back and review before the next Council meeting but he
was lacking one piece of information. He will put it in the mailboxes
within the next day or two for their review.
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Darrell McGillen asked permission to hold a parade on August 27th in
conjunction with the 50's-60's promotion that weekend. This is a
sponsors parade by the Laurel Retail Trades, sponsored by the Laurel
Outlook and Palace Bar & Lanes. The parade will start at Cenex,
proceed west on Main Street to First Avenue and north to Athletic
Field. He would like permission to use the ballfield to park the cars
on while they are being judged. He stated the owners of these cars
have a lot of money invested in them and they want an area where they
will not get chipped or damaged.
Motion by Alderman Collins to grant the Laurel Retail Trades
permission to hold a parade and a car show at Athletic Field on August
27th, seconded by Alderman Orr. Motion carried 7--0.
MAYOR'S COMMENTS:
The Mayor appointed Chloe Kaelberer as Ambulance Director to replace
Pat Metzger.
Motion by Alderman Dickerson to approve the Mayor's
of Chloe Kaelberer as Ambulance Director, seconded
Teeters. Motion carried 7--0.
appointment
by Alderman
The Mayor appointed Tom Eastman as Assistant Ambulance Director to
replace Chloe Kaelberer.
Motion by Alderma~ Teeters to approve the Mayor's appointment of
Tom Eastman as Assistant Ambulance Director, seconded by Alderman
Dickerson. Motion carried 7--0.
There being no further business to come before the Council at this
time, the meeting was adjourned at 10:20 p.m.
Donald L. Hackmann, City Clerk
Approved by The Mayor and passed by the City Council of the City
Laurel, Montana, this 6th day of September, 1988.
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ATTEST:
Donald L. Hackmann, City Clerk