HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Minutes 05.15.1990Minutes of the City Council of Laurel
May 15, 1990
A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Laurel,
Montana, was held in the Council Chambers and called to order by Mayor
Bob Gauthier at 7:05 p.m., on May 15, 1990.
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT:
Ron Marshall
Donna Kilpatrick
Norman Orr
L,D. Collins
Lonnie Kellogg
Bob Graham
Bruce Teeters
COUNCIL MEMBERS ABSENT: Chuck Rodgers
INVOCATION: Invocation was given by Reverend Holt.
MINUTES:
Motion by Alderman Collins to approve the minutes of the regular
meeting of May 1, 1990, as presented, seconded by Alderman Orr.
Motion carried 7--0.
Without any objection from the council, reconsideration of Town Pump's
Special Review was added to the agenda as item SA.
CORRESPONDENCE:
Received the April newsletter from the Montana Municipal Insurance
Authority.
Received the April minutes and activity report from the Yellowstone
County Air Pollution Control Board.
CITY CLERK & CITY TREASURER'S FINANCIAL STATEMENTS:
The City Clerk and City Treasurer's financial statements for the month
of April were presented.
Motion by Alderwoman Kilpatrick
Treasurer's financial statements for
approved, seconded by Alderman Collins.
that the City Clerk and City
the month of April, 1990, be
Motion carried 7--0.
MUSEUM LEASE:
RESOLUTION NO. 2443
A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE CITY OF LAUREL AND THE
LAUREL MUSEUM, INC., SAID AGREEMENT
RELATING TO A THREE (3) YEAR LEASE
OF THE OLD LAUREL LIBRARY BUILDING
Motion by Alderman Orr that Resolution No. 2443 be passed and
adopted, seconded by Alderman Marshall. Motion carried 7--0.
SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL:
At this time, the Garbage Committee minutes of May 14, 1990 were
reviewed.
Discussion followed regarding Phase I (transfer site), Phase II (full
transfer site), closing date for our current landfill, dump fees at
the Billings landfill and what fees should be charged to county
residents using Laurel's transfer site.
RESOLUTION NO. 2444
A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE CITY OF LAUREL AND THE
CITY OF BILLINGS, SAID AGREEMENT
RELATING TO SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL
Motion by Alderman Marshall that Resolution No. 2444 be passed
and adopted, seconded by Alderman Collins. Motion carried 7--0.
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SALE OF LAND IN YELLOWSTONE SUBDIVISION:
In a letter to the council dated March 6th, Steve Schreiner requested
permission to purchase a small piece of land adjacent to his own
property at 108 Durland Avenue. The description of the land is a
portion of Lot 1, Block 3, Yellowstone Subdivision.
RESOLUTION NO. 2445
AUTHORIZING SALE OF CITY LAND
Motion by Alderman Kellogg that Resolution No. 2445 be passed and
adopted, seconded by Alderman Collins. Motion carried 7--0.
RECONSIDERATION OF TOWN PUMP'S SPECIAL REVIEW:
Joe Bradley stated that in order for Town Pump's Special Review to be
reconsidered, an alderman who voted against it at the last meeting
would need to bring it up before the council tonight. If this motion
passes by a simple majority it would only reopen the matter for
discussion. Then, the Special Review would need to be voted on again.
Motion by Alderman Marshall to reconsider Town Pump's Special
Review, seconded by Alderman Orr. There being a division of the
house, a roll call vote was taken. Aldermen Marshall, Graham, Orr,
and Kellogg all voted, "YES." Alderwoman Kilpatrick, and Aldermen
Collins and Teeters voted, "NO." Motion carried 4--3 when Bob Graham
changed his vote from "NO" to "YES" later on in the meeting. (See
Town Pump discussion under Mayor's Comments)
DEANNEX PORTION OF CHERRY HILLS SUBDIVISION:
RESOLUTION NO. 2446
VACATING AND ABANDONING CERTAIN DESCRIBED
PORTIONS OF CHERRY HILLS SUBDIVISION, SECOND
FILING, IN THE CITY OF LAUREL, AND EXCLUDING
SAID VACATED AND ABANDONED PORTIONS FROM THE
CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE MUNICIPALITY
Motion by Alderman Graham that Resolution No. 2446 be passed and
adopted, seconded by Alderman Orr.
Cal Cumin stated that as part of the approval process Mr. Cantrell has
to prepare a final plat. Cal would like to see, as one of the
conditions of the final plat, that the drain ditch is dug and the
fence is built to the specifications of the City Engineer or himself.
He said if this plat is approved without final inspection of these
items the city has no further leverage.
Discussion followed regarding what the description of the fence should
be, what authority the city has to enforce maintenance of the ditch
and the fence at a later time, will the taxes be paid and how will the
city maintain the buffer zone of lots if this passes.
Bob Graham asked Mary Jo Devener if she would be satisfied with this
action by the council. She stated the buffer zone will sufficiently
separate her property from the wire fence but her concern is with the
situation in the future. She does not feel that Mr. Cantrell will
maintain either the fence or the drain ditch and eventually the cattle
will get out and flooding may occur because the ditch is not properly
cleaned out. Mary Jo said her only recourse at that point would be a
civil suit and she does not want that.
Motion by Alderman Graham to amend the motion to include Sub
Paragraph (E) that Mr. Cantrell show on the final plat, to the
satisfaction of the city, what he is going to do about the drain ditch
and what kind of fence would go in there, seconded by Alderman Orr.
Motion carried 7--0.
At this time the vote was taken on Resolution No. 2446, as amended.
Motion carried 6--1, with Alderman Collins voting, "NO."
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COMMITTEE REPORTS:
--Budget/Finance Committee minutes of May 1, 1990 were presented and
reviewed.
It was questioned and discussed regarding the 24-8' light bulbs for
$ 724.00.
Motion by Alderwoman Kilpatrick to enter the Budget/Finance
Committee minutes of May 1, 1990, into the record, seconded by
Alderman Orr. Motion carried 7--0.
--Budget/Finance Committee minutes of May 2, 1990 were presented and
reviewed.
Motion by Alderwoman Kilpatrick to enter the Budget/Finance
Committee minutes of May 2, 1990, into the record, seconded by
Alderman Orr. Motion carried 7--0.
--City Council Committee of the Whole minutes of May 1, 1990 were
presented.
Motion by Alderman Orr to enter the City Council Committee of the
Whole minutes of May 1, 1990, into the record, seconded by Alderman
Marshall. Motion carried 7--0.
--City-County Planning Board minutes of May 10, 1990 were presented
and reviewed.
Motion by Alderman Orr to enter
minutes of May 10, 1990~ into the
Collins. Motion carried 7--0.
the City-County Planning Board
record, seconded by Alderman
Discussion followed regarding the building permit jurisdictional area.
--Garbage Committee minutes of May 14, 1990 were presented.
Motion by Alderman Graham to enter the Garbage Committee
of May 14, 1990, into the record, seconded by Alderman
Motion carried 7--0.
minutes
Collins.
Bob Gauthier commented that the city is going out for bid on a truck
for hauling the garbage containers. It was discussed at the
Budget/Finance Committee and decided that having the garbage trucks
going down the road is not a good long term solution.
Discussion regarding the heavy weight of the new garbage truck. It
was stated that the new truck has better weight distribution and
should weigh less per axle than the old one.
--Parks Committee minutes of May lO, 1990 were presented and reviewed.
Motion by Alderman Kellogg to allow the city to grade the cinder
track on the school property by the Graff School if there is a letter
of approval from the School District, seconded by Alderman Collins.
Motion carried 7--0.
In regard to concerns about maintenance of the ball fields, the Mayor
stated he is working with Fred Feuerbacher to find a solution to this
problem.
Motion by Alderman Kellogg to
of May 10, 1990, into the record,
carried 7--0.
enter the Parks Committee
seconded by Alderman Orr.
minutes
Motion
MAYOR'S COMMENTS:
In regards to the Town Pump issue, the Mayor stated there are
questions whether this is ignoring the issue or not. Bob said that if
it is a zoning issue and it fails, beware that our liability insurance
does not cover zoning issues and if Town Pump sues us, it has to come
out of the city's pocket.
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Joe Bradley stated there is no question that it is a zoning issue and
our insurance company will deny coverage of it.
Joe said it is still not too late to get out of it. Any one of the
four who voted against it can ask the council's permission to change
their vote. One more vote would put it back on the table for
discussion and Joe stated he would like to discuss it some more. Joe
said the council has not had the benefit of Cal Cumin's advice since
he was not at the last council meeting.
Joe said the issue can still be voted down again but he feels the
council needs to know the risks the city takes because of this denial.
Joe said the city will have to pay the fees for our own defense and
also the lawyer's fees for Town Pump, if they should win.
Town Pump's attorney stated at the hearing that this license would not
bring that much more business in and they do not expect to sell that
much more beer. Joe said this should help our defense because they
would not have that much economic damage, by their own admission.
Joe said the issue they would take is that a special review is a
zoning procedure and it needs to be examined on the basis of how it
affects the zone in that area of town. Town Pump received a copy of
the minutes and as Joe recalled, there was very little discussion in
reference to the zoning.
Bob Graham stated that although he is still opposed to this he would
like to discuss it further. Due to an article in the paper, Bob said
many people felt this issue would be reconsidered and passed and
therefore did not come tonight. Bob feels they should be present if
the issue is debated again.
Joe said the appropriate way to do this is if one of the four who
voted against it will ask the council for permission to change their
vote. The motion to reconsider will then pass 4--3 and the item can
then be tabled for discussion until the next meeting when
representatives from both sides and the media can be present.
Donna Kilpatrick stated there is another petition from Rev.
Cunningham, but Joe said the council cannot accept it into the record
since the public hearing was over at the last meeting. Joe warned the
council that if this is reconsidered, they do not want another public
hearing. He said the council can ask specific questions of the
audience but it will not be open for general comment or submission of
petitions. Joe said you could open it up to public comments, but he
recommends not doing this because we already had the public hearing
and the council does not need to listen to the same comments again.
Bob Gauthier said that we pay Joe Bradley and Cal Cumin for their
advise and expertise and he would like the council to give them a
chance and listen to their opinion of what is right and wrong and the
consequence of the council's action.
Joe Bradley said you can still turn it down, but he would like the
discussion directed to the effects it will have on the zoning in this
area. Will it adversely affect the neighbors in that zone? Joe's not
saying the council can not come up with valid reasons on those grounds
to turn it down, but he does not know what they are and these
arguments would be the basis for our defense.
It was stated that the public hearing scheduled for May 14th in Helena
has been postponed indefinitely. Joe said the state requires that
Town Pump have the proper zoning from the city and as long as they do
not have it, the state will not listen to them. Joe said it would
probably stay postponed until after they sue us and a decision is made
by the judge.
It was stated that Albert Ehrlick is circulating a petition regarding
the traffic in and out of Town Pump and Joe said this would be a
legitimate zoning issue.
Donna Kilpatrick stated that the Planning Board could see nothing
wrong with the zoning at the time it came before them and so it was
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passed on to the council to look at the bigger picture of how this
will affect Laurel. Donna stated that this larger picture is what she
based her decision on.
Joe said that by a larger issue he does not mean if liquor licenses
are good or bad. The state has reserved for itself the power to
decide how many liquor licenses will go in the city and to whom they
will go. They do not have any rules prohibiting gasoline sales from
businesses with on-premise liquor licenses. This is allowed all over
the state and a lawyer in Helena told Joe there has never been a
problem with this.
Joe said the legislature is responsible for changing the rules
regarding who can hold the liquor license. The city has no power over
this. Joe said even the Department of Revenue will probably not turn
Town Pump down just because of the gasoline issue.
Cal Cumin said you can explore the exclusion of this kind of thing in
the zoning. The city could separate gas sales from zoning under
certain provisions to prevent stores from turning into mini-malls but
it is to late for this particular issue. Cal said the city's
ordinances allow this type of thing in that area.
Joe said the Planning Board went through such criteria as off-street
parking, landscape, access from the highways and putting hedges up if
it bothers the neighbors. The last time an on-premise license was
denied was at the old VFW Hall because there was a resident within
feet of that building and this could be said to adversely affect the
character of the neighborhood.
There was discussion whether Town Pump's leased property is considered
their property when addressing the footage distance between neighbors.
Cal Cumin said the council needs to listen to Joe Bradley and give
him some fuel to fight with if they are going to turn this down. He
feels it needs to be opened up for debate so when and if it gets to
court, Joe can say these issues have been evaluated, which they have
not been so far.
Cal feels it would be best to allow it and put conditions on it. It
is more of an emotional issue than it is a factual one. At the public
hearing the manager stated the conditions he intends to abide by in
his business and Cal feels these conditions need to be put in as
provisions of the special review. This can only be done at the time
of application and they are not provisions that the council is putting
on, but rather provisions the manager said he is putting on.
In regard to a question about enforcement, Alan Crowe stated the
police department is governed by state law concerning alcohol and he
feels they have no authority to enforce specific conditions that may
be put on.
Joe Bradley said a zoning complaint would have to be filed stating
that Town Pump violated the terms of their special review. Alan said
they have never investigated zoning problems and Joe said it is a city
ordinance and they are violating a city permit which makes it a
criminal violation of the zoning ordinance.
At the public hearing, Town Pump proposed to come back to the council
in six months to see if they still have any problems with the license.
Joe said it is not possible to give a temporary permit because the
state would not pull their liquor license if the city changed their
minds at a later date.
Donna Kilpatrick repeated what Town Pump claimed, that they probably
would not sell that much beer. She feels their real idea is to bring
in the poker machines when the intent of the law and the reason it has
to be in a bar is because you have to be 21 years old to be in there.
How then, are you going to keep 16 year old's away from the poker
machines?
Joe said bar owners in Laurel have this same dilemma. Darrell
McGillen said that in a bar you are a minor if you are under 21 years
of age and he doesn't allow minors to be in his bar unless supervised
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by an adult. Joe did say that the law allows minors to walk into bars
unsupervised and the city cannot pass a law keeping them out. It is
up to the owner whether they post house rules that may prohibit minors
from being there unsupervised.
Joe stated that often times you go into a bar and see adults with
children in their laps punching buttons on the machines. Why would
you treat Town Pump any differently than other establishments where
this happens all the time?
L.D. Collins said the difference is that someone like the Palace does
not sell gas. Joe said you cannot say that because the state allows
for it. This cannot be an issue unless the city has it separated in
their zoning ordinances, and we do not have it separated! It is
something that can be done in the future, but it is to late for this
item.
Joe impressed upon the council that the state has always reserved the
right to grant or not grant liquor licenses and the council cannot
change that. This has to be done by talking to the elected officials.
Cities have never had the power to decide who gets liquor licenses,
based on the type of business they run, unless you've got a zoning
issue.
Lonnie Kellogg stated Town Pump has one violation and if this is
approved and they come up for renewal of their license and have a
couple more violations, does the city have any recourse of action?
Joe said that if there are continual problems we would have to contact
the state and they will act. They are fined for each violation but
Joe did not know at what point their license would be suspended. The
city itself does not have any recourse as far as issuing the license.
Cal also impressed upon the council that they need to reconsider this
issue and give some basis for turning it down. He knows of nothing to
base this refusal on because our ordinance do not address it.
Donna Kilpatrick questioned why it should be discussed again when Joe
has been telling the council that they have no grounds to stand on
anyway. Joe said it has to be discussed or the city is going to end
up paying money out of their own pocket for attorney fees on both
sides. Donna asked why they didn't just go ahead and do it and not
bother the council in the first place?
Joe said it has to go through the procedure. Town Pump is a little
bit different because they already are an established business as
opposed to a new business wanting to come in and having to meet all
the zoning requirements from square one.
It was stated again that even if Town Pump loses the lawsuit, that
liquor license will still be located somewhere in Laurel. It will not
cut down on the amount of liquor sold in Laurel.
It was stated that Billings recently lost a judgement due to council
action, which was not based on zoning laws but rather on opinions.
Joe said the council is using a cut and dried zoning procedure to
basically legislate morality.
Bob Graham asked the council's permission to change his vote to, "YES"
on the motion to reconsider the Town Pump Special Review.
Motion by Alderman Marshall to allow Bob Graham to change his
vote on the motion to reconsider the Town Pump Special Review,
seconded by Alderman Orr. A roll call vote was taken and all aldermen
present voted, "YES." Motion carried 7--0.
Motion by Alderman Graham to table the discussion and a
on the Town Pump Special Review until June 5th, seconded by
Collins. Motion carried 7--0.
decision
Alderman
In regard to minors, Darrell McGillen stated this is controlled by
state law. If a minor is caught playing a machine or drinking, the
business can lose their gaming and liquor licenses. Under the Palace
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Bar & Lanes house rules, minors cannot play the machines or drink if
they are under 21 years of age.
Darrell said one of the problems bar and tavern owners have is that
the legal age for playing machines is 18 but the legal age for
drinking is 21. As it was explained to Darrell at a Gaming Commission
meeting in Billings last week, if a machine is in a bar atmosphere and
a minor, which is anyone who is less than 21 years of age, comes into
that bar, they cannot play the machines under the restrictions of the
liquor law because it is a controlled atmosphere with restrictions for
those under 21 years of age.
There being no further business to come before the Council at this
time, the meeting was adjourned at 8:36 p.m.
Donald L. Hackmann, City Clerk
Approved by the Mayor and passed by the City Council of the City
Laurel, Montana, this 6th day of June, 1990.
Bob Gauthier, Mayor
of
ATTEST:
Donald L. Hackmann, City Clerk