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SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
MARCH 17, 1994 7:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chuck Rodgers - Chairman aonna Kilpatrick
Albert Ehrlick
Gay Easton John Minch
Lonnie Kellogg Chuck Dickerson
OTHERS PRESENT: Vicki Metzger Cathy Gabrian
The Mayor stated that we have Richard Larson with us
tonight. He is currently Mayor of the City of Billings and
runs a private consulting service. We have given him copies
of our Personnel Manual and our Union Contract and asked him
to review them and give us some direction.
Richard stated that he met with representatives of the City
hwhat
two weeks ago and we expressed our concern over
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direction we should take regarding the vacancy we now in the engineering department.
• By way of his credentials, Richard passed around two
handouts which listed his experience and background. He
spent 16 years as a city manager and four as the Mayor of
Billings. He runs a private consulting service and covers
states throughout the northwest.
Most of his consulting work relates to personnel matters
which include fiscal assessments in both the public and
private sectors. He has done a lot of work in the past few
years, trying to help communities meet ADA regulations.
To help understand where he is coming from, he explained
that in 1982, when he started doing more work in labor
relations, he went to Helena to the Human Rights Commission
and looked at files. He wanted to see what kind of charges
people were making against employers. He found that in 100%
of the cases that were before the commission where the
employers lost, they had combined policies and procedures in
the same document. In 60% of the cases that employers won,
the policies and procedures were separated.
He questioned why, and was told that the commission makes
it's decision based on what is in front of them. Richard
said he is from the old school where the policy is on the
top and the procedure follows and it is all in one neat
package. The examiner stated that when both are in one
document, it is easier for them to see the violations. It
is so simplistic in logic.
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• Since 1984, Richard said he has been separating policy and
procedure for cities, counties and private businesses. He
said he doesn't really get into the procedure manual to much
in the private sector unless there are many different
divisions or stores within. a company.
Procedure is making sure that all departments are operating
on the same frequency; police, fire, public works,
utilities, office staff and such.
He has discovered that city policies should not be more than
eight or ten pages long. They should be put in sentence
form. Often times we say to much. We. need to say it and
put a period on it.
The procedure manual may be a different story. This would
identify how you go about the hiring process and all the
particulars involved with it. This needs to be a uniform
process or you will get hooked very quickly by ADA and the
EEOC and you will lose.
The American Disabilities Act has been in place since 1990
and places requirements on employers. It states that the
"essential, job function must be identified. The job cannot
be preformed without this specific task being accomplished
and it has to be spelled out. An employee must be able to
perform this essential function but may be able -to get help
or farm out others aspects of the job that:, are not essential
to the base job.
By doing this, a person looking at a job description can say
whether or not they are capable of preforming the job.
Richard said that since 1992, ADA has also required
employers to have separate personnel files which c.ontai.ns
medical information on each employee. These files must be
kept separate and away from the regular personnel files,
under lock and key and with limited access.
These kinds of things must be followed because if you are
found in violation, it is very expensive. Some of the
expense can be in the form of fines, sanctions or
withholding of grant money or state and federal money. They
seem to tie a lot of things to highway money also.
In looking through our Personnel Manual, Richard said the
City has done an outstanding job and it is an excellent base
on which to start. The problem is that we have policy and
procedures mixed throughout the manual. There are also
things that need to be addressed regarding disability
issues.
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Richard looked
contract and s
some of them,
function. We
needed for the
through the job descriptions in the labor
aid they are a good base to start with but in
it is hard to identify the essential job
do show the physical requirements that are
job.
Richard was asked to look at our wage processes and he said
some of the job descriptions are spelled out in our codes
and that is fine for the code books but we need a much more
detailed description to refer to that meets ADA
requirements.
The City asked him to look at our wage structure and with a
very quick overview, he doesn't think we are too far off.
On the issue of job parity, we have done a good job. From
the City's standpoint, he does not see this as an immediate
priority to address.
In regard to our questions about what positions are
recommended for a city the size of Laurel, Richard said he
cannot answer that without a lot of input from everyone.
What is right for another city our size, may riot be right
for us. It needs to be customized for our own needs. He
would be doing us a disservice, as an outsider, to tell us
what we need unless he gave a recommendation based on input
and interviews with employees. Through an interview/
questionnaire process, he could identify the areas of need
and find out what is or what is not working and make
recommendations based on this. He found out a long time ago
that the employees are the ones who are closest to the work
and they probably have the greatest knowledge of what is
needed and what is being done. It is a two way street and
the employees need help from the policy making body to
identify the main emphasis. They have to work together.
Richard feels the place the City of Laurel needs to start is
to get job descriptions together that meet ADA regulations.
The second thing is to make sure that our policies and
procedures meet the test and they are separated. Out of
these two functions, he would be able to make an assessment
of what direction the City should take. Richard strongly
recommended that every supervisor and all the employees or
as many as possible, be involved in the process of
developing policies and procedures.
Richard outlined the process he would go through in
achieving this goal. First, he would hand out
questionnaires that are filled out by both the supervisors
and employees. It asks you to state what it is you do and
this will very greatly among different people. Some go into
40 great detail and others sum up their job in short order.
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The second thing is an interview with every supervisor and
employee in the City. In a 30 minute interview, he is able
to identify exactly what that person does. Richard said he
understands the job function of every job in the city and
most of them within the county. He has gained this
knowledge through practical' experience which came from
starting at the bottom and working his way up. Richard said
that from his practical experience, there are very few
people who have ever conned him about what they are doing.
Through this process he finds out just what it is the City
needs.
He will take 'this information and make draft descriptions.
These will be given to each employee to make corrections and
comments. Richard will then review these copies and put
together the final,. descriptions. Out of this process comes
a lot of information that is used in the other issues we are
talking about.
Regarding policies and procedures, Richard will, use our
Personnel Manual as a base. We would spend a 1-0-hour day
collectively with as many employees as possible, to include
the City Attorney, and identify every policy and procedure
that we have or need to have. It is a very hard day but you
get a break at noon.
It is then Richard's task to put together two documents, a
policy manual and a procedures manual. He will then bring
these back and we will spend another 10-hour day going over
the documents word for word to make sure everything is where
we want it to be. Some things can be similar to other
cities but you want it customized to meet your specific
needs.
This will identify our needs. Sometimes we over organize
ourselves and have "too many, chiefs and not enough Indians".
Sometimes the people in the trenches can supervise as well
as the supervisor who sits in the office.
The Mayor said he feels the City needs to proceed with this
study and look at our entire structure.
Richard said Laurel is in an ideal situation to take a look
at what we have. Right now we have a major potential player
vacancy. The time to make a decision is before we take
action on this position. So many cities hurry to fill the
position and find that they have made a mistake. He
encouraged us to take our time, if we have the resources to
do so, and find out our needs before filling the position.
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In regard to a question about the time frame for this
process, Richard said it would be a 3 to 4 month process.
Some of this depends on the availability of the city
employees.
Once the questionnaires are given out, he gives about two
weeks for them to be returned. He then schedules interviews
for each employee which last approximately 1/2 hour. Some
may take longer but, he has found, through his experience,
that he can get all the information he needs in this amount
of time. He then draws up the job descriptions.
In regard to a question about the fee, Richard said it
depends on what we want him to do. He would submit a
proposal to the council. His fee is based on the number of
hours it takes and he knows, to within a few hours, just how
long something like this will take.
He would also provide us with a compliance manual which has
the rules and laws pertaining to hiring applications. He
was asked to help proof this document when it was being put
together and he now has access to it.
The Mayor and Council would, like to see a proposal from
Richard on the steps outlined here tonight. It was stated
that there would be around 40 employees involved in the
process. We would also want to include job descriptions for
the Ambulance and Fire Departments, the City Attorney and
the Fire Inspector because they fall under worker's
compensation.
Richard will have a proposal to the Council by next week and
will wait to hear from us.
Richard commented on an interesting option that is being
worked on. He said the League of Cities and MACO asked him
to put together a proposal for circuit writing city or
county managers to help them in personnel manners. This
would help to have services available on a contract basis.
It will be a service offered in Montana that has not been
before.
The meeting adjourned at 7:59 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Cathy Gabrian
Richard Larsen & Associates, Inc. 1733 Parkhill
Billings, Montana 59102
Consultants (406) 248-4252
PRINCIPAL: Richard L. Larsen
BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE:
. B. A. Degree, Economics & Business Administration,
Westminster College, Fulton, Missouri
. Graduate Study, Public Administration,
University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas
26 years municipal experience in Engineering, Fiscal
Management, Research Associate and top level management,
(16 years as a City Manager and 4 years as Elected Mayor) .
Extensive involvement in economic development; community
and subdivision development; training, personnel and labor
relations; State & Federal Coordination and legislative
relations; Fiscal, Budget and growth management processes.
. Since 1979 Consultant to local governments and private
businesses providing services ranging from growth management,
personnel management, supervisory and management training,
fiscal and rate management, result oriented Goal Setting, and
labor relations. Assist in identifying private enterprise
alternatives to public facility development, operation, and
management. Areas of general business consulting include
financial management, prospectus development, industrial
development, personnel and labor relations, supervisory and
management training, goal setting, facilitating change,
leadership, and general management development.
AWARDS AND HONORS
. Public Administrator of the Year - State of Utah (1976)
Recipient:
L. P. Cookingham Career Development Award (1974) and
Clarence E. Ridley Outstanding Training Award (1979),
each from the International City Management Assoc.
Citizen Award, U. S. Department of Interior, Bureau of
Reclamation (1977)
Service Above Self, Rotary, Billings, Montana (1988)
District Scouter of the Year (1993)
District Award of Merit, Boy Scouts of America (1993)
Who's Who in the West
. Currently serving as Mayor of Billings - Montana's
largest city
Richard Larsen & Associates, Inc. 1733 Parkhill
Billings, Montana 59102
Consultants (406) 248-4252
OVERVIEW OF RICHARD LARSEN & ASSOCIATES, INC.
RICHARD LARSEN & ASSOCIATES, INC. is a Montana Corporation
established in August 1979 in Billings, Montana. Richard .
Larsen is the sole owner. The Principal services provided:
BUSINESS CONSULTING that includes, but is not limited
to Supervisory, Management, Personnel and Labor
Relations; Fiscal Analysis; Training of Management,
Supervisory and front line employees to increase
productivity, customer service skills and overall
job performance; Development of Personnel Policy
Manuals; Salary and Benefit Analysis including Job
Descriptions; and Result Oriented Goal Development
providing the client with the tools necessary to
achieve unrealized expectations. Additionally,
extensively involved in the Economic Development
processes which provides an insight that brings to
the Client an advantage in the competition of the
market place.
LOCAL GOVERNMENT CONSULTING that includes, but is not
limited to Supervisory, Management, Personnel, and.
Labor Relations; Fiscal Analysis and Budget
Development; Training of Management, Supervisory
and front line employees in productivity, customer
service and performance expectations; Development
of Personnel Policy and Procedures Manuals, Job
Descriptions, Salary and Benefit Analysis; and
Result Oriented Goal Development providing the
tools necessary to provide the ultimate in service
to the citizens of their jurisdiction; and provide
the full range of services as an interim City/County
Manager in the operations of their governmental
unit.