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CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
December 15, 1992 6:30 p.m.
Council Chambers
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman - Chuck Rodgers
Ron Marshall Norman Orr
Albert Ehrlick Gay Easton
Donna Kilpatrick L.D. Collins
Lonnie Kellogg
OTHERS PRESENT: Joe Bradley Jim Worthington
Mike Atkinson Don Hackmann
Dave Michael Andy Forsythe
The Mayor stated that Andy Forsythe was asked to attend this
meeting to update the committee on the progress of the Volk
Construction settlement.
Andy explained that this has been a lawsuit that Laurel has
been involved in for many years now. Before it was a
lawsuit, it was what was called a plain arbitration claim.
When the wastewater treatment plant was built, the
contractor asserted claims against the City of Laurel in the
amount of about $ 750,000.00. There was a lot of evidence,
disputes and problems associated with this claim.
Andy stated that during meetings four or five years ago
between Bob Gauthier and the attorney for Volk Construction,
the city tentatively agreed to settle these claims for
$ 250,000.00, contingent on EPA funding 75% of it.
EPA refused to fund that much of the settlement and
suggested they fund a little less. Andy explained that the
EPA, in providing the grant to the city, provided a given
amount of money under their grant program. They were not
legally obligated to provide more than their grant, however,
terms of their grant said they would look at and perhaps
approve some legitimate adjustments in price or changes in
work.
But, they would not help the city with any problems that may
have arisen because of administration of the contract due to
the relationship between the city, the contractor and the
engineer.
The refusal of the EPA to fund this ultimately lead to the
filing of a lawsuit in district court and that's where the
push and pull came in. We finally concluded, during
consultation with Bob Gauthier, Jim Worthington and myself,
that it was to the city's advantage to settling this claim
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without the additional money spent on attorney fees and the
likelihood of paying some of those claims.
It was Andy's prediction that the contractor would win some
money, although not as much as this settlement. But if it
went to court, the city would also have additional expenses
for attorney and engineering fees and Andy feels we would
have spent more in the long run than what the settlement is
for.
Andy said an important part of the consideration to settle
was based on what EPA would pay in this settlement. After
meeting with them, they will pay approximately $ 92,000.00
out of the total claims of $ 150,000.00. A definite factor
in this decision was getting some assurance from EPA that
they would agree the payments which have resulted in the
$ 92,000.00.
Andy explained
projects that
later on. This
provided to the
should be. If
back.
that on many of the large public works
the EPA funds there is sometimes an audit
audit determines whether the money the EPA
city was all spent just the way they feel it
they do not agree, they may get the money
In light of this, Andy said one of the things they asked
when they met with the EPA representative was what is the
likelihood of the audit and how will they view the
settlement. The representative felt that the way the
settlement was structured was as safe as we could do it and
the project looked good from an audit standpoint. We have
good reason to hope there will be no problems down the road
with EPA, either because of the way the project turned out
or because of the settlement.
Bob Gauthier explained the financial end of the case and
said this settlement amounts to $ 150,000.00. The city
currently has $ 130,000.00 in the sewer plant construction
account and we are expecting another $ 49,000.00. We will
pay the settlement amount and the majority of the remaining
money will go to our attorney.
In regard to the audit, Bob said they have already done a
desk audit and they seem to think that what has been done so
far is satisfactory. At this time, if the settlement is
finalized, EPA does not feel that they would do an audit
unless something unusual turns up in the next three years.
Bob said the reason this has taken so long and he has not
pushed on it is because he does not feel the claim is
justified and he was hoping EPA would just throw the whole
thing out.
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• Bob said the city has
paid Andy approximately $ 43,000.00
and nothing has even went to trial.
Don Hackmann, City Clerk, stated that the latest figure he
has seen regarding EPA participation was at $ 41,000.00.
Andy said the difference may come in because he is counting
what is called liquidated damages. This is the amount the
EPA paid the city but the city did not pay the contractor.
Andy explained that when this job was completed, the
contractor was late. Under the contract, $ 53,000.00 that
he was owed was not paid to him, but simply kept in an
account. That is part of the money that is being used to
settle the case.
Lonnie Kellogg questioned whether most of this revolved
around change orders. Bob explained that change orders must
be brought to the council for approval and the contractor
did this up until about the last six months. From there on
he did not present any change orders and his recourse was
to come back with this large claim in the amount of
$ 750,000.00.
Lonnie stated that the council approved the change orders on
. the advise of the engineers and he asked if the city has any
recourse against the engineers.
Andy commented that he did an opinion letter on the city two
years ago and he researched this issue. Change orders that
were executed and approved by the council were adjusted to
the contract and are not a part of the dispute that we're
talking about. We are talking about requests for change
orders that the engineer refused, for various reasons. The
contractor's recourse was to request arbitration.
Andy said that although it is possible to sue a professional
engineering company for professional negligence, he checked
with lawyers who handle this sort of thing and it is very
difficult to win. Andy said the city could do it but it
would be very expensive.
Andy said there are many lessons to be learned from doing a
project such as this. He suggested that in the future on
any major projects, the city should consider not having a
binding arbitration provision agreement. When you don't
have this and you go to district court first, sometimes the
city may be able to bring the engineer into the lawsuit and
benefit from it.
Bob said that the engineering firm, HKM & Associates, who
handled the project have not charged the city any fees for
settling this claim. If they were to, the fees would be
around $ 40,000.00.
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Discussion followed regarding other cases throughout the
area where this same type of thing is happening.
Andy stated that with acceptance of the settlement, there is
no claim existing.
Mike Atkinson stated that he has a safe sitting at the FAP
that is of no use to him and he would like to get rid of it.
He was told it would take council action to do so.
Darrell McGillen stated that he attended a class this past
weekend that dealt with the new fire and building codes that
the state adopted in 1991.
The meeting was adjourned at 6:52 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Don Hackmann
City Clerk
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