HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity/County Planning Board Minutes 02.09.1984February 9, 1984
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Meeting called to order by R. M. Williams, Vice President, with
the following members present:
R. M. Williams, Vice Pres. (County Rep.)
Otto J. Preikszas, Exec. Secty (City Rep.)
Ed LaPrath (County Rep.)
Bus Roberts (City Rep.)
Gerald-Shay, Member at.Large
Jim Seaton (County Rep.)
Jim Straw (County Rep.)
Joseph M. Bradley (City Rep.)
Kenneth Christian (County Rep.)
Members absent:
John Hawley Smith, President (City Rep.)
Hal Dantic (City Rep.)
Also present:
Cal Cumin, Cumin Associates, Billings
Marvin Carter, Alderman
Ray & Sandra Glass, Box 370, Red Dodge
Lonnie & Helen Peterson, 519 5th Avenue, Laurel
Gene Pearl, 125 White Cr., Billings
Jerry Cormier., 3911 Pine Cove Rd., Billings
Gregory G. Murphy, P.O.Box-2545, Billings
Darrell & Margaret Aaby, 1012 12th Avenue, Laurel
Terrance J. & Leann Keller, 1125 13th Avenue, Laurel
Bruce & Karen.K. Keithler, 1101-12th Avenue, Laurel
Mike Phares, 420 3rd Avenue, Laurel
Jack J. & Elsie W. Lix, 1102 12th Avenue, Laurel
Hugh & Bertha Van Swearingen, 1036 12th Avenue, Laurel
Paul N. Wilson, 1006 12th Avenue, Laurel
• Vickie Jury, 1031 13th Avenue, Laurel
Betty Benner, 1113 13th Avenue, Laurel
Mel Krug, Alderman
Bob Mace, Mace Realty, P.O.Box 20821, Billings
Vickie Bell, 1136 12th Avenue; Laurel
Joyce E. Fox, 1018 12th Avenue, Laurel
Patricia E. Flohr, 1118 13th.Ave., Laurel
Carolyn R. Taylor, 1210 W. Maryland Lane, Laurel
Hazen S.-& Cathleen-Arnold,--1030 10th Avenue, Laurel
Don & Bobbie Woerner, Rt. 2, Box-202A, Laurel
Ron Marsich, 1024.12th.Avenue, Laurel
Marlyce Barndt, 1023 10th Avenue, Laurel
Glen Bies, 1017 11th Avenue, Laurel
George E. Lee, 1308 W. Maryland, Laurel
Kim Flohr, 1118 13th Avenue, Laurel
Shelley J. & William R. White, 1312 W. Maryland, Laurel
Madelon J. Davis, 1202 W. Maryland, Laurel
Minutes of previous meeting approved. Bills approved for payment:
Engineering Department in the amount of $200.00 for Administrative
Services in February.
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PUBLIC HEARING: ASSEMBLY OF GOD PB #84-01 - ZONE CHANGE A zone
change has been requested.on Lots 1--7 inclusive and Lots 22--41 in-
clusive, all in Block 10,. Cherry Hill Subdivision, 2nd Filing, Laurel,
Yellowstone County, Montana, from R7500 zone to allow RMF zone. The
owner proposes 'two 12-plexes and one 11-unit building. The property
.is located at 13th Avenue and Maryland Lane, Laurel, Montana. Fee has
been paid. Advertised in Laurel Outlook 1/18/84 and 1/25/84.
Lonnie Peterson was present representing himself and the church
stated the project is for himself and a partner only. The church bought
the lots with the intent of placing a church there. Partner is Glass.
Opponents: Kim Flohr stated he originally purchased his lot with the belief
the subdivision would be for single-family but with the church permitted.
Raised question of school adequacy.
Joyce Fox was concerned about schools. Questions density of air-traffic
to be crossed by children.
Elsie Lix asked about necessity of zone change to build a church. Why
did church ask for a zone change? Answer: Because the church owns the
land.
Pat Flohr Was zoning change compatible in preserving property values?
Vickie Bell worried about safety of children.
Hazen Arnold paid premium for land but objects on basis of adequacy of
City services.
George Lee concerned about schools.
Bruce Keithler questions tax production of proposal.
Marlyce Barndt wondered about play areas for children and how about dogs.
Bruce Keithler asked will road net changes? Answer: No.
William White asked will his property value decrease and will taxes be
commensurately lower?
Bob Mace is opposed to proposal. He sold the lots with the understanding
t at on y a church would be built. Mr..Mace said he will negotiate a
re-purchase of the lots from the church. He doesn't want to be unfair
to people he sold other lots to.
Caro-Lyn _Taylor had understanding area was single-family.
A protest petition was circulated. ..There are 112 signaures. The
petitions are entered into the record, also a protest letter from Kim &
Patricia Flohr and one from Jerry Cantrell.
Ray Glass stated tax base of $400,000 on 7 houses and over a million
on the apartments. People do not need to use the same street daily. The
buildings will be brick-faced, not a low cost unit. Lonnie Peterson
suggested that the church property would occupy 20 lots and reduce the
density.
Elsie Lix wanted to know what is to prevent using the whole area for
apartments after the zone change is granted.
Cal Cumin read Supreme Court's 12 tests which may be discussed in
a zoning change hearing. It was understood to be a single-family neigh-
borhood. Traffic is a problem and gives new character to the neighbor-
hood.. In view of these items, Cumin recommends not approving the reque
for a zone change.
Lonnie Peterson said lots could not be sold as such.
Gerald Shay asked if those present understood it to be single-family?
Ken Christian asked if there were any pros? Answer was tanta-
mountly NO.
Motion from Gerald Shay to recommend disapproval of the zone
• change, seconded by Bus Roberts. Carried. Recommendation for dis-
approval of the zone change will now go to Council for final approval.
NOTE: On February 10, 1984, at 9:30 a.m., the City-County Planning
Board received a request to withdraw this application for a zone change
(see copy of letter attached).
PUBLIC HEARING: PELICAN.RV PLAZA PB #84-02 Jerry Cormier present
representing Frank Pelican.- Site is mostly south and extends a little
east of existing Pelican Truck Plaza at East Laurel Interchange. The
nearest RV campground is 60 miles west. Land is grade agriculture.
See Cormier Associates presentation dated February 9, 1984, addressed
to the City-County Planning Board.
Gene Pearl stated 5.2 acres (1/9 areal set aside for recreation
including a playfield and children's play area.
Jim Straw asked and Cumin answered this is out of our zoning area.
Gregory G. Murphy appeared against representing Frances Mackay
immediately south and west, Sam Jansma renter, and Don Woerner who owns
property immediately-east. Letter from Moulton, Bellingham, Longo &
Mather P.C. dated-February 8, 1984, signed by Ward Swanser entered as
part of these minutes.
Dr. Woerner emphasized that animals are kept nearby. Land directly
south of project was in PIK program but is generally in corn.
Ken Christian said we already.have a packing plant, truck stop and
• feed lot already in the area. He asked Jerry Cormier about pet toilets
but this point had been overlooked. Jerry reiterated that sewage would
be disposed off-site-and would rob Mr. Pelican of privilege of develop-
ing his property in a non-zoned area. Constraints are mainly State
imposed. This campground is proposed as_about a 4-month/yr. operation.
Most of the spots have no permanent hookup. The exceptions is about 10
spaces on the high side of the development. In answer to Jim Straw,
Jerry Cormier replied this is a.public utility system. The drainage and
its dangers to children, other than those in the trailer park, already
exist in the area. Fence would be 4' woven wire not at present specified.
Public Hearing closed.
Cal Cumin read the Moulton etal letter. He also said that the State
must license the water-sewage system annually and that these are generally
more than adequate. Cal went over points titled Pelican RV Plaza
Subdivision Covenants Operations Standards dated January 15, 1984.
He emphasized that a handle.on the covenants is that this must be re
licensed annually by the State.. Cumin recommends approval subject
to certain recommendations. . Motion from Joe Bradley,
second by Bus Roberts, to recommend approval based on character of
area subject to 10 points of stipulation made by Cumin Associates.
Carried. Recommendation to go to County Commissioners.
ROGER ANDERSON UPDATE No progress. County Attorney tied up.
Anderson still has too many trailers on his space.
LARRY MYERS UPDATE No progress. Letter has been written by registered
• mail and returned "no such address"; another letter sent to Roberts, MT.
with no return as yet.
Meeting adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Otto J. Preikszas, Exec. Sectv
February 9, 1984
Dear City-County planning board,
On behalf of the Laurel. Assembly of God Church, I would
like to withdraw my application.for the Zone Change for lots
l .through 7 inclusive and,lots 22 through 41 inclusive all
in Block 10, Cherry Hills Subdivision, 2nd Filing, Yellowstone
County, Montana.
Thank You.
Sincerly Yours,
Lonnie eL.-
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City of Laurel
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P.O. BOX 10
PHONE: 628-8791 February 14, 1984
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CITY-COUNTY PLANNING
DEPARTMENT
RECOMMENDATION TO
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
At a meeting of the Laurel-Yellowstone City-County
Planning Board held on February 9, 1984, after public notice
and ,a public hearing having been held., the Board recommends
to the County Commis.sioners.that the petition for a preliminary.
plat of PELICAN RV PLAZA be approved based.on character of
area discussed by Cumin Associates (copy at,tached).
John Hawley.Smith, President
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City of Laurel
LAUREL, MONTANA 59044 PLANNING
P.O. BOX 10
PHONE: 628.8791 DEPARTMENT
SUBJECT: Plat Review Committee and Department Head Comments of
January 25th, Pelican R.V. Plaza Subdivision
TO: Full Planning Board
FROM: Cal Cumin
DATE: February 9, 198.4
Department Head Comments:
A. Fire Department:
1. Fire safety standards require that all of the roadway be paved,
not just the access road; however, given the transient n Lure of the project's
occupants, this interior paving could be waived.
2. The roadway width is not shown and must be at least 20 feet wide
with no parking allowed to meet fire safety standards."
B. Public Works:
The City of Laurel will not accept sewage effluent from the project's
holding tanks.
C. County Surveyor:
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1. An'access permit is needed to access the frontage road.
2. If provision of paving and sidewalks is not going to be required,
as per County Subdivision Regulations for Mobile Home and Recreational Vehicle
Parks, this needs to be waived specifically by the Planning Board. (NOTE:
these requirements are from the Yellowstone County Subdivision Regulations and
not the Laurel City- County Regulations.)
3. The curvilinear street has centerline curves of less than 100 feet
radius.
Plat Review Committee Comments:
1. Only Buzz Roberts showed up for the Plat Review Meeting with Ken
Christian coming in later; consequently, the project was discussed with the
developer's representatives, Jerry Cormier and Gene Pearl, but not action
could be taken.
2. Cumin stated that the developer should provide, prior to the
Planning Board Meeting, a set of the park's operational guidelines or
covenants, a subdivision improvements agreement (SIA) specifying when and
how the improvements were to be installed.
3. The water system operator needs to be licensed.
4. The requirement for a traffic accessibility study needs to be
considered.
5. A signed Solid Waste Disposal form needs to be provided.
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Cit y of Laurel
LAUREL, MONTANA 59044 Planning
P.O. BOX 10
PHONE: 628 -8791 DEPARTMENT
January 23, 1984
Larry Myers
Route 1, Box 134
Laurel, MT 59044
Dear Mr. Myers:
It has come to the attention of this Planning Board that you are in the
process of subdividing land in Yellowstone County southwest of Laurel;
this area is within the subdivision development review jurisdiction of
this City- County Board.
Prior to doing further work on this project, you should meet with this
Board and discuss what you are planning. Your development activities in
this area may not meet the requirements of the Laurel City County
Subdivision Regulations, and - -if so - -your preliminary and final sub-
division plats may not be approved. As you know, the land title cannot
be transferred without proper subdivision.
The next meeting of the Laurel City - County Planning Board is Thursday
evening at 7:00 PM, February ¶thin the Laurel City Council Chambers.
Sincerely,
Cal Cumin, AICP
Planning Director
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