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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity/County Planning Board Minutes 11.12.1987Y LAUREL-YELLOWSTONE . CITY-COUNTY PLANNING BOARD LAUREL, MONTANA 68044 November 12, 1987 Meeting of the Laurel-Yellowstone City-County Planning Board called to order at 7:02 p.m., with the following members present. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman John Hawley Smith Gerald Shay, Member-at-Large, Exec. Secty Velda Thomas City Rep. Donna Kilpatrick City Rep. Roy Johnson County Rep. Joe Bradley City Rep. Russell Bray County Rep. MEMBERS ABSENT: Grace Edwards Don Gudgell Darrell Aaby Bob Rosselot OTHER PRESENT: . Clarence Sonstegaard Phil Gorby Robert Strand Larry Herman Betty Winkel Ginney ? (last name unknown) County Rep. County Rep. City Rep. County Rep. Bob Gauthier, Mayor Darrell McGillen Larry Lorfing Ellis Winkel Cal Cumin Larry Herman representing the Winkel°s states this is a request for Special Review and the ultimate determination is going to be made by the State. What this is, is a variance to allow a Personal Care Facility. A Personal Care Facility is for people who are ambulatory as such to take care of themselves in a controlled environment or communal type home which has to be licensed by the state before it goes into effect. The state has inspected the facility and issued the certificate of need and so it would take series from this board to issue a special review. Joe Bradle states he called the State and spoke with a Charles Aagenes, head of Health Planning and Resources Development Bureau in regards to the certificate of need being issued. The application for certificate of need is not complete until they get the Citys approval as to the site, then the state will hold their hearing. So the certificate of need has not been issued yet. Planning Board Meeting November 12, 1987 l Page 2 Gerald Shay inquires as to how many occupants will be living in the two houses. Ellis Winkel figures six and that probably doesn't cover the staff. Betty Winkel states you really don't know until the state tells you how many staff employees are required, but she figures three employees on the payroll plus them. Cal Cumin asks if the facility the Winkel's have now is classified a personal care facility. Betty Winkel replies that it is classified a Foster Home. Joe Bradley states there shouldn't be any off-street parking problem. Donna Kilpatrick asks if there has been a fire inspection performed. Betty Winkel states that has been done by the State Fire Marshall already. -- Larry Herman refiects the state would not allow the application without first having a fire inspection and there should be a copy in our files. Larry also asks if there were any protests filed. 0 Cal Cumin states this is an application for one personal care facility and yet there are two buildings involved. Isn't this a bit unusual? Betty Winkel replies no, because it is one legal description. Joe Bradley states Mr. Aagenes, of the state has concerns about the two houses and might request the two buildings be joined due to employing staff in each building. Cal Cumin would like entered into the minutes a letter from Thomas Selleck, Deputy State Fire Marshall, regarding a personal scare home for people at 717 W. 1st Street. It is addressed to the Department of Health & Environmental Sciences whereas, an in- spection was conducted on the above said property August 27th, 1987, to determine the condition of the home for life safety. The following is the violtion and correction necessary to provide a reasonable degree of fire safety to this facility. Uniform Fire Code, Section 10.301 - No fire extinguisher - correction - install an A.B.C. fire extinguisher in the kitchen area, a 1--A minimum size. Fire extinguisher shall be installed so that the top of the extinguisher is not more than five feet above the floor. Cal further states there is no problem with the use of the land • and he recommends that the two buildings be connected some how subject to state approval. Planning Board Meeting November 12, 1987 Page 3 Joe Bradley recommended approval subject to State approval, that the facility complies with said requirements, consistent • with the zoning code, compatible with the land use, acquiring a City License and that there would be no adverse impact. Joe Bradley motioned seconded by Donna Kilpatrick to close the public hearing and no second hearing be held. Motion carried 6--0. OFF STREET PARKING Donna Kilpatrick spoke on behalf in regards to off-street parking businesses are having problems w the matter and see if there is a and limit it to new construction businesses due to the fact there facilities available. of the Laurel Chamber of Commerce requirements. Some of the ith it. Would like to discuss possible way to amend the ordinance instead of already existing are no additional parking Joe Bradley states he never thought the City of Laurel had a parking problem, but apparently some of the chamber people do. Joe wants to know what side is the Chamber siting on. Do they feel we need more off- street parking or not? What happened to Firemans Park and Blackburn's property. Donna_Kilpat_rick said they could not generate enough support so the idea was dropped. . Darrell McGillen explains where Donna is coming from. Darrell would like to see the ordinance changed to prevent what happened to him happen to someone else. He remodeled the a Palace for the second time, there was 2400 square feet involved. He was aware of the ordinance saying any new or additions would have to supply additional off-street parking. He was told by the Building Department at the time of his building permit application that one or two additional parking spaces would accomodate your addition. He added that in his budget for the constructiorhe knew he could handle that additional cost. While in construction, Jim Flisrand of the Building Department came back to Darrell and stated after reviewing the ordinance he would need 16 additional parking spaces. With the other business people within the block alleviated 50% of his problem leaving additional eight spaces needed. Mr. Blackburn across the street assure Darrell he will make up an agreement with him for the additional parking he needs. This is unacceptable due to the fact the ordinance states you may not cross a major collector to obtain additional parking. Right now Darrell is waiting for formal legal papers to sign agreeing to pay the City $6,000. for six parking spaces. He would. like to see this ordinance changed to alleviate hardship to already established businesses trying to upgrade by remodeling their business. This puts extreme hardship to any business. Discussion Follows. 0 Planning Board Meeting ` November 12, 1987 Page 4 Joe Bradley asks if Darrell feels off-street parking should be required at all. Darrell McGillen not to already existing businesses. It puts a heavy burden on the businesses already established. Joe Bradley motions to recommend to the council to allow the us to draw up some revised requirements for location of off- street parking seconded by Velda Thomas. Motion carried 6--0. Temporary Signs Cal Cumin the City Council had the issue of Temporary Signs come up. The council referred the issue to the Planning Board for a recommendation back to them. It does not have to be at the next meeting.. Cal has drafted up some ideas and provisions and would like all committee members to study it and report back with any ideas they may have at our next Planning Board Meeting. HOME OCCUPATION. Bob Strand of Sue's Video explains the details of the business. It is simply creating home videos. There will be no impact of traffic in his neighborhood, there should be no problem with noise. There might be an occasional customer, one at a time. Cal Cumin inquires as to exactly what the business is. Bob Strand explains that he will be taking pictures of weddings, parties, etc. He would be making video tapes, film editing and filming. His equipment does not interfere with television etc. Gerald Shay motions to approve subject to no traffic coming to the residence seconded by Donna Kilpatrick. Motion carried 6--0. LARRY LORFING OF L - T Painting 307 7th Ave. would like permission to store Business jobs on a more than some paint and ladders in conjunction with this business. is ususally from June to August of the year. He bids single job basis therefore, he doesn't need to store 40 gallons at a time. Gerald Shay recommends approval subject to a limitation of 50 gallons of all paint products and subject to no fire code violation, seconded by Donna Kilpatrick. Motion carried 6--0. Clarence Sonste aard came to the Laurel City-County Planning Board about a piece of property he owns located in the county. He was wondering about re-zoning it. The Planning Board gave several suggestions and recommended if he wishes to pursue the issue he would have to file and application for re-zoning. Russell_Bray discusses sign ordinances. He would like sign painting and sign lettering shops put in separately from sign manufacturing. 0 0 Planning Board Meeting November 12, 1987 • Page 5 John Smith asks about lasts month meeting minutes. Joe Bradley states there were no minutes due to no quorum. John Smith then asks about the meeting before that. Joe Bradley states the Planning Board will have to approve them. Joe makes motion to approve the meeting of September, 1987, seconded by Donna Kilpatrick. Motion carried. 6--0. Three bills submitted for approval were submitted for Director of Public Works Department for three months, for September, October and November in the amount of $200.00 each. Joe Bradle motioned to approve seconded by Gerald Shay. Motion carried. 6--0. Motion to adjourn by Gerald Shay, seconded by Velda Thomas. Motion carried. 6--0. Meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m. • Respectfully submitted, John Hawley Smith Chairman E C? E